E.T.A. Hoffman Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Hello World, So this came up the other day and I'm trying to find evidence to support it. I was told that when a stitched together is kill (dies not die) he gains reactivate. So, if he activated he activates again. If he has not activated then he gets two activates now. I thought you only got reactivate if he had already activated. But, from what I heard that's not the case. He always gets two activates if you kill him. Is this true? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 Nope. He only gains reactivate if he has Activated. However he count as having activated if he's started his activation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T.A. Hoffman Posted September 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 So if he activates does his stuff, then after his activation is killed, he'll gain reactivate and get another run. If he is killed before he activates. Then he just activates as normal before he dies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindwarpusa Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 that's correct then to gain reactivate he will have to be killed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T.A. Hoffman Posted September 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Does that mean, I could activate him. Kill him, he gets reactivate. He does his thing. Then kill him again? Then he gets reactivate again? Or does this say that he must be killed by enemy models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEiRD sKeTCH Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 A model can only activate a second time with Reactivate once per turn. (page 34 of the Rules Manual) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 that's correct then to gain reactivate he will have to be killed again. You can't kill him again can you? He's now in the state of not dying. He has no wounds for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demkoenig Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Whoa, whoa, whoa... You can't give a model that has yet to Activate the Ability Reactivate? So, if a model is Paralyzed, I have to activate it and then give it Reactivate. So, Reactivate doesn't truly negate Paralyze, it simply works around Paralyze. I thought Reactivate, like Fast or Slow or Paralyzed, can be applied to models that haven't activated yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEiRD sKeTCH Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 You can't kill him again can you? He's now in the state of not dying. He has no wounds for a start. Incorrect. It remains in play with 1 Wd remaining as stated in Does Not Die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmdown Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 You can't kill him again can you? He's now in the state of not dying. He has no wounds for a start. He stays alive on 1 Wd. And no matter how many times you try to kill him, he still stays alive on 1 Wd instead of being killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroa Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Incorrect. It remains in play with 1 Wd remaining as stated in Does Not Die. so, you CAN get the ss cost of stiched together when playing slaughter? kill him, he comes back with 1 wd left, kill him again, or does "does not die" will trigger again when you kill him the second time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEiRD sKeTCH Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 so, you CAN get the ss cost of stiched together when playing slaughter? kill him, he comes back with 1 wd left, kill him again, or does "does not die" will trigger again when you kill him the second time? Does Not Die applies every time it is killed. Remember what I stated earlier, that a model can only be activated a second time with Reactivate once per turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindwarpusa Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 no you dont get the points because you dont kill him, when he is reduced below one wd does not die kicks in and leaves him with one wd until the end phase where he sacs himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Whoa, whoa, whoa... You can't give a model that has yet to Activate the Ability Reactivate? That's not what was said. Does not die only gives Stitched Reactivate if it has already activated. He stays alive on 1 Wd. And no matter how many times you try to kill him, he still stays alive on 1 Wd instead of being killed. I really should read my cards better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I thought Reactivate, like Fast or Slow or Paralyzed, can be applied to models that haven't activated yet. No, it resets the model to "can activate" from "cannot activate." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demkoenig Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 @ Ciaran Took this to another thread. Thanks though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calmdown Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 I can see why rules guys get fed up easily when people misinterpret simple stuff this easily! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermitpermit Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I only recently started to use Stitches and mother of god they are a pain to understand. This thread does clarify a lot though, thank god for rule wranglers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Jack Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Does Not Die applies every time it is killed. Remember what I stated earlier, that a model can only be activated a second time with Reactivate once per turn. Does that mean the following is Possible? - My Stitched has not activated yet and gets killed by something. Does not die and don't get Reactivate. - I activate the Stitched and do some stuff. - Later sometheing does 1 Wd to this Stitched, resulting in him don't die again and getting reactivate. Edited September 23, 2011 by Candle Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karn987 Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Does that mean the following is Possible? - My Stitched has not activated yet and gets killed by something. Does not die and don't get Reactivate. - I activate the Stitched and do some stuff. - Later sometheing does 1 Wd to this Stitched, resulting in him don't die again and getting reactivate. Absolutely. Stitched Together are really nasty. Once you kill them, you really don't want to touch them again that turn if you can help it. Though there is not much you can do about it since Gamble Your Life can hurt them and end up killing them that second time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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