Nathan Caroland Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I just got into a discussion with Ann offline about how some sculptors/painters/etc have little quirks that seem to work their ways into their artwork and sculpting and found it to be a rather interesting conversation. I'm interested in what sort of quirks, flaws, whatever that some of you have noticed about some of your favorite sculptors and artists. Do they make all their faces the same, something just a little out of shape or size that is just slightly 'off', etc. For instance, and I don't know this for fact actually, but someone once said that all Sandra Garrity faces are the same on all her miniatures (I'll have to go look). I'm curious ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I barely know any sculptors and don't know which of my minis were sculpted by whom. I just think Werner Klockes faces look all rather similar. And most hands, by many sculptors, are a bit lumpy and unelegant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritual Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Yannick Henebo, former Rackham sculptor, who now works for Warcrow among others, seem to put a lot of leather straps with tiny buckles on most of his sculpts. I also noticed that Werner Klocke's faces are very similar to one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Werner always seems to have V shaped jawlines that seem to have become his trademark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 He makes strangly protruding cheekbones. Doesn't necessery look bad, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadAsbestos Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Kev White makes the sexiest female minis around. I think it is quite a bold statement just to admit that one finds a mini sexy, but his are...well, hot! And Sandra Garrity...... no, I can't..... :censored: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdukino Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 On the subject of Werner, I agree with the above mentioned.. similar faces (in the females atleast) in most of his sculpts, also I agree with the v shaped chin (again only for the females)... Also his faces tend to be rather broad... and again in the females... the back is bent rather painfully in the lover back (breasts perky forwards, butt promined back, seems to be the motto for it) on most female sculpts, up to the point of being extremely unpleasant, painfull of even impossible were they real woman. But even so... Werner remains my favorite sculptor to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdukino Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 Oh and Chris Fitpatrich has vary narrow faces often with pronounced cheekbones... definatly visible in some Croc games and even more in his GW work (Dark elves (like the dark elf witches), Dark Eldar and elves). Also his stomach area's seem to be rather "square"shaped... but I love that look for it doesn't look unatural. Oh and Werner does rather typical eyes... Very clearly defined, bigger with both eye-corners often sculpted deeper than with most sculptors (Kev White does this too though, be it less obvious) Speaking of Kev... his naked females and the somewhat more fleshed out female figures instead of skinny ones is rather telltale Kev. He also has a rather rounded style in the shapes (both lines as volumes) he generally choses in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I'm trying to think up painter quirks, but I don't know, this type of thing doesn't seem quite as regular in painters as in sculptors...anyone think of anything for painters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdukino Posted September 28, 2005 Report Share Posted September 28, 2005 I'm trying to think up painter quirks, but I don't know, this type of thing doesn't seem quite as regular in painters as in sculptors...anyone think of anything for painters? Marieke Reimer always has a very soft almost silky "dusty" look to her figures... But if a quirk is to be something negative I definatly wouldn't call this a quirk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I'm trying to think up painter quirks, but I don't know, this type of thing doesn't seem quite as regular in painters as in sculptors...anyone think of anything for painters? I don't know about painter quirks but I sure know some quirky painters! :imsorry: it's late and I'm brain-fried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green stuff Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I've heard about this painter named Eric J... something that does a lot of reflexive surfaces. But he always forgets to paint one detail : the camera and person taking the picture :dancing2: . OK, I'm going back to sleep :peace: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Farstrider Posted September 29, 2005 Report Share Posted September 29, 2005 I got to agree about Werner's female sculpts. The are very telling and very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I got to agree about Werner's female sculpts. The are very telling and very nice. I have noticed what seems to be a common thing in alot of his newest.. is that they're looking downwards. Looks nice, but a real bitch to get a good face photo shot. :motz: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 A lot of the Werner sculpts, especially the elves, always seem to be looking out from under their eyebrows as they have their head tilted down as if looking over a pair of spectacles going 'are you stupid, or just plain dumb boy?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 I'm interested in what sort of quirks, flaws, whatever that some of you have noticed about some of your favorite sculptors and artists. Do they make all their faces the same, something just a little out of shape or size that is just slightly 'off', etc. Oh yeah... *Everyone's* got their quirks artistically, sculptor or painter. Just a brief list of things I've seen: Dennis Mize - don't get me wrong, I have a lot of his sculpts, but he's got two major things that bug me: 1) knock-kneed women. He seems to have this thing for portraying women like they have to go take a pee or something... 2) figures with raised arms. I swear half the Shadowrun line had minis holding their hands up like the stereotypic "I'm yawning pose." Tom Meier - every one of his faces uses the classical convention of a hole in the eye for a pupil. In marble sculpture this was done so the hole creates a natural "black" or dark patch for the pupil. He carried this through to mini-sculpting. Also, in his older models many of his men tended to look like old men, even young barbarian warriors! John Dennett - he had a very particular way of making claws, which he used on nigh-well every monster with claws he sculpted for Grenadier. They carried over from dragons to aliens to Cthuloid monsters... You could tell just by the claws it was one of his. He also had liked to wrap the claw over the base, so the mini looked like it could just come to life and step off. Werner Klocke - as mentioned the 'elfin' features are almost a trademark for him. That and the use of unusual poses. He tries to spice things up, though he doesn't always succeed and some his minis have odd stances or strangely-tilted heads as a result. For instance, and I don't know this for fact actually, but someone once said that all Sandra Garrity faces are the same on all her miniatures (I'll have to go look). I'm curious ... You noticed that too huh? Well, she has very similar faces for her men and women, but then again most sculptors have a particular style for them. My thing with her is she picks the same poses and does them over and over and over... Though in her defense she has been trying new things, like that awesome undead dog she just did for Reaper. Bob Ridolfi's women all have the same, rounded face style. I could go on and on... Truth be told everyone has their quirks, including me, it's just when it gets to (drum roll please) the "Jakusovszky Rule" that I get concerned - "All artist's reach a plateau point, then either coast forever at the same level, or go down hill." This seems to hold true for any art form. It's rare when someone breaks out of a mold, or stretches their wings when they reach the point where either they feel in rut or they stop listening to their overwhelming fans/art director/etc telling them to keep putting out the same stuff.... The example I use of this is Boris Vallejo (no relation to the paint ;P) I mean how many more muscle-bound, oiled, "pseudo-fantasy" weight lifters does the world need? At one point he did try different things, telling stories, illustrating books, but now it's all testosterone and swords. Which is what the "fans" come to expect. It's nice to see when an artist stretches their wings and contradicts me! Like Julie Guthrie for Reaper. I never used to give her much credit when she worked for Grenadier - her faces looked alike and all the hands were large (like an anti-Austin Powers .) But her new models for Reaper were a breath of fresh air - unusual subjects, like six-armed snakewomen and banshees, and creative sculpts. I love it! Take care, Laszlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Max Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Kev White makes the sexiest female minis around. I think it is quite a bold statement just to admit that one finds a mini sexy, but his are...well, hot! And he makes them have *real bodies*! Not willowy, underfed super models. Not DDD top-heavy women. Women who have a little flesh to them (almost Rubanesque). As my wife said about one of his sculpts: "She looks like me!" It's good to see someone recognizes that not all women look like model waifs. Take care, Laszlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted October 1, 2005 Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 It's good to see someone recognizes that not all women look like model waifs. :amen: :congrats: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2005 Whaaaa .. they don't all have perky DDD? Man, I must get out more. Seriously though, those are some very good points Laszlo, going to open up a browser and take a look at these 'quirks'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duende Posted October 3, 2005 Report Share Posted October 3, 2005 Whaaaa .. they don't all have perky DDD? For you, FF: :slap: I know I've been looking at minis way too much when I'm watching a music video and think that the singer has a "Werner Klocke-ish" face. And that it's happened more than once! :crazy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincegamer Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 I'm trying to think up painter quirks, but I don't know, this type of thing doesn't seem quite as regular in painters as in sculptors...anyone think of anything for painters? Well, my personal quirk if you will, is to put something modern world into the mini and paint it in a way no one else will. Some examples (all in my CMON gallery): Elmore Amazon with Girl Scouts emblem on her shield CMON contest Amazon with hard-hat, "road work ahead" sign and holding stop sign. CMON contest Valkyrie with surfboard and Baywatch bikini and torpedo bouie. Space marine Dallas Cowboy and Washington Redskin. Klocke assassin as skater-dude. Void Commander X as Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader. Frankly I was quite surprised I didn't get lots of people guessing the cheer-leader was mine in the CCV contest. Maybe I'm not famous enough yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Now that you point it out Vincegamer, it seems so obvious! I have this feeling I'll have a good shot at finding your mini in CCVI now. Sometimes I can be a little slow at noticing things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted October 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 (laughing) I have to admit not noticing this either, but it is pretty funny now that I know and I've gone back through the gallery to take a second look. Is it that you prefer 'modern' or you enjoy just having a bit of a change with them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincegamer Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 Well, that's tough to answer. I think I'll go with I enjoy having a bit of a change. However, I might like modern if anyone was making modern pieces like mine. The only thing out there is men in suits. Thugz comes close, but I think they are all carrying guns. No one I know of is producing a road crew or construction workers or park rangers etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi6ers Posted October 6, 2005 Report Share Posted October 6, 2005 You might like these: Sabotage (TFT do some really cool bases too...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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