How do Pulses and Shockwaves (also pulses) interact with models and elevation?
Does a pulse extend vertically to an infinite height? Or is there a limit? The Size of the model or object generating the Pulse? The Pulse rules offer no clarification that I could see.
We had a situation last night where a model was on a ht 2 building. A Shockwave (2) was dropped right next to the building. The model was within 2" of the marker horizontally. (For visual reference you can use the picture of Dashel and Parker on pg 18 of the rulebook. Dashel represents the Shockwave Marker and Parker the model).
I reasoned that it depended on whether the Marker had LoS to the model. The building had the blocking trait so it would block LoS, but I haven't experienced too much of the new elevation rules so I consulted the rulebook.
According to the rules "When drawing LoS between two objects, any intervening models or terrain with a Size or Height that is lower than either of the two objects is ignored." So the Height 2 building is lower than the Ht2 + Sz2 model on the roof so LoS is not blocked. The Shockwave's Pulse would effect the model, right? It as LoS and is in Range.
But the Shockwave is in the Shadow of the building, so the LoS is blocked, since "if either model is in the Shadow of terrain with Height equal to or greater than the Size of that model..., any sight lines that pass through the terrain generating that Shadow are blocked" (Shadow rules pg 18). So there is no LoS. The Shockwave's Pulse would not effect the model.
Except this: (pg 28) "Unless otherwise noted, Markers....have no vertical distance (ie., Height or Size)" and so figuring LoS using rules that refer to the Size or Height of objects that have no Size or Height leaves questions in my mind. Do Shockwave Markers ONLY effect objects and models on the same elevation? If they had Size of 0 they could add the Height of the terrain they were on to figure LoS. But they don't. So I'm assuming LoS is ALWAYS blocked by any difference in elevation.
The Shadow rules also refer to "models", not "objects". But I assume that the intent is that the rules apply to objects (such as Markers) as well regardless of the exact wording?
Also: if the model had been within 1" of the edge of the terrain, it would ignore the terrain it was on. That would give the model LoS to the Marker, but does it also give the Marker LoS to the model?
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How do Pulses and Shockwaves (also pulses) interact with models and elevation?
Does a pulse extend vertically to an infinite height? Or is there a limit? The Size of the model or object generating the Pulse? The Pulse rules offer no clarification that I could see.
We had a situation last night where a model was on a ht 2 building. A Shockwave (2) was dropped right next to the building. The model was within 2" of the marker horizontally. (For visual reference you can use the picture of Dashel and Parker on pg 18 of the rulebook. Dashel represents the Shockwave Marker and Parker the model).
I reasoned that it depended on whether the Marker had LoS to the model. The building had the blocking trait so it would block LoS, but I haven't experienced too much of the new elevation rules so I consulted the rulebook.
According to the rules "When drawing LoS between two objects, any intervening models or terrain with a Size or Height that is lower than either of the two objects is ignored." So the Height 2 building is lower than the Ht2 + Sz2 model on the roof so LoS is not blocked. The Shockwave's Pulse would effect the model, right? It as LoS and is in Range.
But the Shockwave is in the Shadow of the building, so the LoS is blocked, since "if either model is in the Shadow of terrain with Height equal to or greater than the Size of that model..., any sight lines that pass through the terrain generating that Shadow are blocked" (Shadow rules pg 18). So there is no LoS. The Shockwave's Pulse would not effect the model.
Except this: (pg 28) "Unless otherwise noted, Markers....have no vertical distance (ie., Height or Size)" and so figuring LoS using rules that refer to the Size or Height of objects that have no Size or Height leaves questions in my mind. Do Shockwave Markers ONLY effect objects and models on the same elevation? If they had Size of 0 they could add the Height of the terrain they were on to figure LoS. But they don't. So I'm assuming LoS is ALWAYS blocked by any difference in elevation.
The Shadow rules also refer to "models", not "objects". But I assume that the intent is that the rules apply to objects (such as Markers) as well regardless of the exact wording?
Also: if the model had been within 1" of the edge of the terrain, it would ignore the terrain it was on. That would give the model LoS to the Marker, but does it also give the Marker LoS to the model?
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