Trixter Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 When you add range caster/shooter to typical Ramos+Joss+Howard team, which you choose and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 December Acolytes, they are very good with their slow and discard. They can also negate Armour and Hard to Wound in a pinch. Silent Ones, decent damage, bit of AE, gets the occasional extra attacks from a trigger (you probably wont want to cheat any to get it with Ramos). (0) Heal is always useful. The opponent need to plan around Statue to effectively kill them. Lazarus, solid damage, AE, 3 attacks with Auto fire, can copy Electrical Fire for another attack, or Arcing Screen/Steam Cloud for some defence, or (0) self heal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJones Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Envy. Decent damage spread, +flip to hit, 0 action focus, and a potential blast combine to make him a serious threat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retnab Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Sue, only Sh5 but built in , and with the built in trigger his damage is basically 3/4/5 and can go to 4/5/6, plus he gives you card draw and an anti-Ca aura. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strype McClaine Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 If your going Powered by Flame Ramos/Joss. Maybe a gunsmith to do things the hardway. Or go big and bring a big shooty Lazarus...get the construct bonuses from Ramos, and steal his spider summoning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 20 minutes ago, Strype McClaine said: If your going Powered by Flame Ramos/Joss. Maybe a gunsmith to do things the hardway. Or go big and bring a big shooty Lazarus...get the construct bonuses from Ramos, and steal his spider summoning? Can't steal spider summoning, since it names a model. You could steal any of his other actions though, so you could get a fourth attack or blow up a spider or something. No real construct bonuses to be had from Ramos either (except healing I suppose). Arcing Screen affects everyone, and Under Pressure is Ml attacks only (which could affect him, but not really ideal for Laz to be in melee range. Suppose Brass Arachnid can reactivate him, which could be rude, especially if you Mobile Toolkit for the + to damage flips for more likely blasting. If you run him though, you may need to drop Howard, because 33SS for 3 (plus Ramos) before upgrades is a bit much. Could maybe make it work in a killing based pool though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strype McClaine Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 minute ago, BFOmega said: Can't steal spider summoning, since it names a model. You could steal any of his other actions though, so you could get a fourth attack or blow up a spider or something. No real construct bonuses to be had from Ramos either (except healing I suppose). Arcing Screen affects everyone, and Under Pressure is Ml attacks only (which could affect him, but not really ideal for Laz to be in melee range. Suppose Brass Arachnid can reactivate him, which could be rude, especially if you Mobile Toolkit for the + to damage flips for more likely blasting. If you run him though, you may need to drop Howard, because 33SS for 3 (plus Ramos) before upgrades is a bit much. Could maybe make it work in a killing based pool though. I think you'd get powered by flame wouldn't you? I forgot that assimilate wouldn't work with a named model in there. But being able to steal any of the other activation would still be pretty good. Forgot that Under pressure was MI only. Brass Arachnid Stealing would be pretty slick..... I run a heavy elite list with ramos anyways... I've gone Ramos + Howard + Joss + Brass + Toolkit (toDie) + Upgrades + Soft SwapSpot (Usualy Elite) and then just spider spam to fill out activation.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 You would get Powered by Flame, but that's not Ramos specific, so I wasn't counting that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strype McClaine Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 1 minute ago, BFOmega said: You would get Powered by Flame, but that's not Ramos specific, so I wasn't counting that. Right. I just think of Joss/Ramos as holding various buffs and turning into a battle-station around them. Getting laz-blasts with burning seems pretty, pardon the pun, pretty hawt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFOmega Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 Agreed, I've been trying to figure out the best way to do it in a Colette crew personally, to take advantage of the Prompts. Joss/Laz with some Large Arachnids/Rail Workers could be interesting as a starting point. Might be strong in a Turf War type scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strype McClaine Posted June 13, 2016 Report Share Posted June 13, 2016 I've been thinking on simmilar things, except with Kaeris. (Construct Burning Kaeris, Or Mages + Kaeris)...Except maybe just use Envy in that slot.... Joss/Laz Large Spider&Rail Workers are ALWAYS good, in almost any master (Except maybe Marcus) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sybarite Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Annah Lovelace for rush of magic and shooting into combat vs df (latch on combo) and weak dg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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