Patzer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Next time you do, he will turn you into a Gremlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Next time you do, he will turn you into a Gremlin.Ah, the noblest of creatures.I'm half of a mind to organize a Mexican standoff of my own: Gremlins against the rest. Six players per side with the "rest" side having one player for each of the remaining factions. But I'm way too busy currently to organize such a thing - maybe later 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Ah, the noblest of creatures. I'm half of a mind to organize a Mexican standoff of my own: Gremlins against the rest. Six players per side with the "rest" side having one player for each of the remaining factions. But I'm way too busy currently to organize such a thing - maybe later Sounds cool! Great idea. Might turned them into a real faction for more people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 I'm half of a mind to organize a Mexican standoff of my own: Gremlins against the rest. You will do no such thing to our meta! NO. Just. No. No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Hey, you can be on the Gremlin side, don't you have a finished Somer crew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Well Math and I have been playing some Gremlins in our meta with moderation.. Everyone just gets pissed off and is about to leave the game. So no. No. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Haha... Why the Finish hate against the RealGreenArmy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Dumb Luck. Slop Haulers. Reckless. Just to name a very limited few. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 It is not worse than anything else. I mean how is that worse than all the bs Ressers can pull off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Reckless and (1)AP charges on the same model. Whoever let that past playtesting is a tool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 It is not worse than anything else. I mean how is that worse than all the bs Ressers can pull off? You would need to ask that from the other guys here. Reckless and (1)AP charges on the same model. Whoever let that passed playtesting is a tool! This I gotta agree with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Everything just hits you once and dies. Nothing comes back. I'll take that over Resser any day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Everything just hits you once and dies. Nothing comes back. I'll take that over Resser any day.I think the Gremlins are very nasty against beginners and generally on the high end of the power curve but against other good crews and experienced players they aren't worse than anything else, really. But what ZFiend is referring to is that our meta is kinda in its infancy and there are only a few people I could really play against with my Gremlins in Mexican Standoff mode (maximizing VP difference). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 But what ZFiend is referring to is that our meta is kinda in its infancy and there are only a few people I could really play against with my Gremlins in Mexican Standoff mode (maximizing VP difference). You do know I am not one of those people as our "serious" games never go past turn 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted June 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 We were supposed to play serious games, maximising VP difference? I just played for fun, trying to win but mainly having a good time, like always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patzer Posted June 3, 2015 Report Share Posted June 3, 2015 Well... Math had another game plan then ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Mathonwy Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 If it is about Gremlins being a real faction, then it's serious business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted June 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 If it is about Gremlins being a real faction, then it's serious business! Okay, I'll give you that. If I joined in and played against Gremlins, I'd probably play my wife. Doesn't get more serious than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 then it's serious business! It always is with Gremlins. Faction known for their seriousness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 I think I could deal with the drunken potty humor aesthetic of the Gremlins if they weren't also slightly out of whack balance wise. As it is they give a real impression of being better than everybody else without even trying that I kind of object to... As for their supposed fragility... They've got as many wounds as most Guild models and their Df isn't any lower on average and while their Wp is lower that really only comes into play against Neverborn/Ressurs. And they have by far the most access to healing of any faction in the game to make up for any incidental damage they do to themselves. And that's just the little gremlins. The big pigs and masters are no easier to take out than any other faction's big stuff and the pigs hit harder than pretty much anything in the game between their (1) charge and trigger to charge another model. As a primary Guild player I am biased, but I really don't think there's anything Guild does that Gremlins don't do better - or at least way more times a turn. Of course, they are still way more balanced than anything GW has produced in the last decade (at least). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Of course, they are still way more balanced than anything GW has produced in the last decade (at least). Hardly a barometer for balanced game design though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 No, but they are the elephant in the industry so it's not exactly damning with faint praise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 No, but they are the elephant in the industry so it's not exactly damning with faint praise. Elephant in the room, more like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm kinda glad I never really got into Warhammer and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted June 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm kinda glad I never really got into Warhammer and all that. Their undead suffer from a distinct lack of parasols. Also, the top hat quota is just bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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