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What about Parkers, shooting cover markers? And mad dogs crate of Dynamite?

Do you think tehre are better upgrades for specific strategies and schemes? Or do you start with what ticks your particular taste? What upgrades would you advise for parker, mad dog and emissary to start playing Parker? (learning curve)

Hi dope, while I'm picking on your text for a quote I direct my reply more to those that say they prefer the old cards etc. While I don have an opinion regarding the size there is a concept we have to understand regarding the artwork etc. Some say "oh I don't need artwork bigger" or " I prefer the old tattered look" but that doesn't mean it's really the best option just because some of us (players and lovers of Malifaux) prefer it that way. But there is such things as "Visual culture", and even if "you" prefer it the old way doesn't mean it's the best option for the game, gamers, or Wyrd. There is also such thing as the "experience" of playing a game and the artwork really contributes for that experience as the handling of objects and tokens etc. And let's not forget market, marketing, etc. I can assure you that the bigger card and new artwork and card design contributes heavily to this new experience. I am also sure that if you picked a "new" game (new edition) with cards that don't fit this new "visual culture" Wyrd would lose in the long run just to "please" the current players. To me, personally, I am afraid that the new concept designs change the look and feel I loved in Malifaux, but that doesn't mean I don't understand the objective. It may not fit me, but I'm sure fits the game and Wyrd objectives. Again, I could just quit playing (not going to happen...) like I did some games, just because it makes me unhappy, but that is my personal option, doesn't mean they have to change the game just because it made "me" unhappy. Voice concerns, not personal opinions. Or you can voice them but don't make as it is an issue of the game. For instance, my concern regarding the new card size is: while Tarot size has it's cool aspect and the new card concept fits the new Design concept and increasing text size is good what worries me is if it is also used to add more text in to the rulesm when it shoud be the reverse, better done copy so we don't need so much text. I'm afraid that it will be used to add more text because there is more "space". I get that in my line of work all the time...

I would love to see a reduction in text and complexity (not TO basic though) but it looks like the text is still similar if not more complex... we will see.

I dont think its a rumor. While I’m very positive about 3rd edition, being a designer makes me think the card decision is a wrong decision. They should work on removing quantity of text not increasing card size. Standards in these cases are important, gives flexibility. Bigger sizes mean more text, new /different binders/ sleeves, new boxes to hold stuff etc. I understand business but in this case I believe it maybe a mistake. But i won’t “die” because of it

I agree with some of the comments. While the new artwork is good technically wise its the art directions that is bothering me. Not these models in particular but most that have come with new designs or concepts. Even the artwork itself is loosing a bit of that nightmarish feel it had previously. To my taste of course. Maybe its just a matter of me.prefering the previous artist but the plastic miniatures will reflect this newdesign style...so I am a bit fearfull

Indeed, I do understand that part. That's what I mentioned above, Wyrd sales could/will take a hit. I believe things that were for instances, connected to Ramos, will be rearranged to fit other arcanist masters, things out of faction will be more troublesome.

That could indeed be a thing, because it will make people stop buying all together. If I have some "unusable" model because of faction change, I'll just trade it with my mates I'm sure they will have the same issues.

Guys, you do realize that new cards are coming out, so the keywords will be rearranged. I don't expect anything to be "shelved" really, apart from aforementioned Masters. I think that's just "panic" speaking and I don't mean offense, jsut the way I see it. To early to know.

He is THE MAN, so whatever he wants 😎

Thank you guys for your replies! Going to read your post ;)

Sorry If I'm starting an already made discussion. I have been out of the game for a while because of lack of players in my new area I read around that Parker Barrows is an okayish master only... I remember being super excited when the box came out... but I moved city and stoped playing as soon as it came. but the cowboy outlaw theme really resonated. But know I read he is not that good which is a shame really... what happened? is it him that is not that good? or that the meta shifted and he was a bit left drying? I remember reading also that Nell was going to be the next big thing...

Exactly. I haven't played for a while but I was playing Tara a lot. The messing around I can make to the opponent is just precious. Learning Tara's game comes in a steep curve. Lot's to try out. Try a specific combo one at a time. Dedicate some time to burying mechanics, then some time to fast mechanics and only later putting them together, but you can always go either way. Beasty bomb is usually too obvious, but you can make it work a few times before your oponent knows how to handle it. Dead of Winter looks a bit meh... but the -2WP in some combos...oh dear... I am thinking of Bishop... I just love the shenanigans she can pull. But it's not a easy of forgiving master.

Will it have solo play? In my city I don't have players and I really miss Malifaux

This topic needs more photos and reports!!!! PRONTO

FTW!

ok i get what you're saying. You kind of mix paint directly on the mini.

I was being a bit sarcastic there... So can Austringers shoot while behind blocking terrain and no LOS... Kirai has to see the target which and be 6" from it is not always that easy and the target must be undead or living. I don't believe it was that OP.

So, my thing with Kirai... Was ikyrio effect that bad? Because I hope Austringers to be fixed next because they can fire at targets they can't see...at a looooong range...

Could you show a example? Having a hard time understanding. :/

Thank you guys! About the seishin. I don't recall the exact name of the color, but I worked around greyish blue tones. The snout and "face" I used a bone-ish like white, the body blue-ish greys. And then glazing with greens. Not grass green, but something more close to turquoise, sorry can't recall the name but it's a GW color. The other are mainly Vallejo. If you need more info I'll be glad to help

Agree....more insect type... Is "it" a she?

Yes that's it. One 0 it's a generic marker, you could even move the "Haze of Bullets" cloud (the one from the upgrade). So Aionus can be 6 of a marker and place it 6 away, so thr marker can travel something like 12" (more or less). Picture Parker putting a haze of bullets marker and Aionus placing it on top of enemies. Regarding the discard. When I play Aionus the first turn is basically putting those low/medium cards to use and make minions around Aionus FAST to reposition or just give them a good head start. In the first 2 turns Aionus can has an extra AP to move, so he can position forward. So I can see Aionus pulling or throwing markers to Parker and then he can do whatever he want with it. The other 0 Action only affects friendly markers which Parker can convert and Aionus can replace them ALL 2". It may be of some use. Just theory of course... can hardly wait to have the book. But Aionus, looking at the new book and it's forces, really makes a lot more sense as I expected.

Am I the only one to see the awesomeness of Parker with Aionus? Drop enemy scheme markers, Aionus picks them and delivers them to parker. 5ss minion models with 2 ap actions and aionus giving them discard support for fast? Markers everywhere and Aionus 2 inch placing them for schemes?

I think the Blobs, Bandersnatch and Titania are what I feel are more in line with "my" fae concept for Neverborn. The minions are a bit too wood elfish (for my taste) but I feel they are some of the ones that have the most "character" for minions. "Dogs" look a bit random to me, because there were dogs already in the previous book. I for instances find the ice scream extremely funny and one of the things that create those little details for the game. I think we all are a bit tired of too generic things or we wouldn't play Malifaux. There are things one likes and dislikes, (the nit picking is really not necessary) but I think we have to agree that Wyrd made an Awesome job of all this lineups, from concept to physical products. Congratulations Wyrd.