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Just wait until the debate concerning tire colors, and whether it's going to be more accurate to paint the tires black or grey because that's two different types of rubber.

To put it plainly, the style of tires on the models didn't really come about until the 20's. (Those tractor style tires actually date to the 30's, so I was giving the monocycles too much benefit of the doubt, too.) Early tires didn't even have treads on them originally. That's why I said it was counter intuitive--the tires are pretty much the most advanced component on each of the vehicles.

The really counter intuitive thing is that it's the motorcycle that's the less plausible vehicle, not the monobike, because of the tires. Radial tires and/or synthetic rubber are about ten years too early in the setting, without having some sort of 'ground up orphan blood' explanation.

There are people who refuse to play the game specifically for those reasons--the stipulated tokens and the packaging of mandatory pieces with arbitrary models. Do keep in mind that you don't need Wyrd produced cards or Wyrd produced models to play Malifaux. A new player could buy the PDF version of the core rulebook, print out all of their cards, put together sprue spiders, sprue arachnids, and a stick-figure-in-a-coat and call it Ramos, submit their scratch built models for approval, and then enter an official Gaining Grounds tournament. That's not the sort of environment which is going to tolerate mandatory standardized tokens. On the subject of official tokens, Privateer Press released a set of damage tracking tokens in various sizes. My local sample size is probably biased, but they've essentially been dismissed out of hand as "just more clutter which has to be moved along with the model" and I don't remember seeing anyone use them in the coverage of Lock'n'Load this year. If you look at a game like Infinity, Corvus Belli actually designs custom icons and artwork for all of their status effects, and you can see the dynamic tension between the people that buy custom token sets for everything, the people that print out their own custom tokens, and the people that have their 'one dozen commonly used types of token' set, and their bag of dry erase tokens. The advantage of company produced markers is that they're a convenient avenue of least resistance, if enough people think they're useful. On the other hand, some of us remember the original GF9 official Warmachine/Hordes tokens.

See the previous parts of the discussion where the context is established to be vantage point line of sight: "So if the diagonal line passes through..."

Are you looking for the discussion which has already taken place in the annoucement thread? or the podcast talk concerning the changes? Note that the podcast has an interview with Mr. Gibbs concerning the changes and their interactions with masters like Leveticus and Dreamer.

For what it's worth, if I wanted to show off the game to other people, I'd get the printed books. That both gets you the stories and artwork, it also lets you see all of the cards in one place. Nope. Wave 1 Arsenal decks have the cards from the Core Rulebook release. Wave 2 Arsenal decks have the cards from the Crossroads book. Keep in mind that the printed cards are essentially provided as a convenience. There are three ways to get all of the upgrade cards: 1. Buy all of the arsenal decks. (Two per faction, seven different factions). This will get you both the faction general upgrades and all of the master specific upgrades. 2. Buy the General Upgrade deck. This gets you the faction general upgrade cards for all seven factions at once. 3. Buy all three of the books, because all of the cards are in the books. The books are a bit cheaper to buy in PDF format (about $25 each) compared to printed format. If you're a new player, and you're not interested in any of the old metal models, just buy the General Upgrade deck because all of the master specific upgrades should be in each of the crew boxes that use them.

It's sequence #1. There's no interval between deciding to do the thing, doing it, and evaluating the new result. Basically, the same sort of sequence as used for cheating--no one commits to anything before doing it. That seems to be the consensus from the previous two threads:

Do you mean the old metal Mortimer (available as a single model or as part of the old Nicodem box set)? http://www.nobleknight.com/ProductDetailSearch.asp_Q_ProductID_E_2147416932_A_InventoryID_E_2148310900

They'll be slow until they've actually activated, unless you have a rule in place to change that. The summoning rules: From Slow: So if you summon something that can't activate, next turn it's going to have Slow on it until after it activates.

The ability: Second paragraph of the summoning rules: So, no, it can't exceed the rare limit. Note that when a model is killed, it's removed from the game and no longer counts against the limit. So you can use Witness a Miracle when you have one surviving peasant and you want a second one. But buried models count against the rare limit. So the summoning would fail if you had one peasant on the table, another one buried, and you tried to use Witness a Miracle.

Just as long as you remember that it's not completely ignoring the terrain element, it's selectively ignoring the fact that it blocks line of sight. Cover is important. Ht1 model standing in H2 Dense terrain. You can see it. Ht1 model standing behind H2 dense terrain. You need to draw diagonal line of sight lines because the relative positions matter and determine whether line of sight is blocked. Same goes with the Ht1 model standing behind Ht2 blocking terrain. How close is the Ht1 model to the terrain, relative to the model drawing line of sight? The relative geometry matters.

I forgot I left that part of the response in. I had put it in because when people ask about Vantage Point rules they tend to ask questions like this: "I have a model on a vantage point. There's a Ht2 model on the ground, and a Ht3 blocking, hard cover wall on the table next to it. Can I see the model?" That doesn't have a Yes/No answer, because you need to draw the line of sight lines through the air to see if any of them get blocked by the "statutory volume" (what that 'within the Ht of the terrain' language amounts to) of the terrain.

For what it's worth, the important point about the Gaining Grounds document is that there are alternatives if you don't have or want the official models, you just have to do a certain amount of creative work. Because conversions and original sculpts are allowed. So a "Here's a piece of clay. Make something that looks vaguely like a bunch of rats trying to imitate a person wrapped in a tarp. You've got five minutes. Go!" quality sculpture would fit the requirement. And, really, a pile of rats underneath a tarp really wouldn't be unrealistic for what those rat kings would look like while they're forming. I've gotten into the habit of carrying some non-hardening sculpting clay in my gaming supplies box to use for things like emergency replacement tokens, and if someone needed a rat king model in the middle of a game, they'd get provided a clay Emergency Rat King model. If they wanted to make something more permanent like a wax paper and greenstuff model, they could do that, too. Or paper mache rat kings, for that matter. You don't have to spend $50 to buy a box of rat kings to use your rats, but a certain amount of effort for a tournament would be expected.

So the new version of Channel is: Aside from being a particularly flashy form of suicide, trying to gain Focused +4 using that ability without trying to spend a soul stone for damage prevention wouldn't do anything because Pariah's Soul is going to remove all conditions. But is the following sequence valid? Leveticus activates Chooses to suffer 10 damage from Channel to gain Focused +5 Spends a soul stone for damage prevention, flips an 11 and prevents 3 damage, so that he survives or would it be: Leveticus activates Uses Channel, suffers two damage, chooses whether or not to prevent that damage. Repeat four more times so that if Leveticus had two soul stones and wanted Focused +5, it would pretty much be guaranteed. I suppose it breaks down in to three separate issues: 1. Can Channel be used multiple times at the start of the activation? 2. If you can use it multiple times, does the damage add together or get suffered in 2 point blocks? 3. Is the damage preventable without negating the ability?

You've asked a question about vantage point line of sight expecting a Yes or No answer. That's a mistake. That's going to effectively ignore the Dense or Blocking trait on that Ht2 terrain, but not the hard or soft cover traits on that same piece of terrain.

Here's the trick: The Jurogumo come out in July, so the only boxes that you're going to be able to buy are the ones with the sticker. So the most direct thing to do is go to your game store and say "This model comes out this month. Please order one for me," they put in the order and then when it comes back it has the sticker on it because it was from the initial release set. If you wait until next month, they'll be back to the non-bonus package.

Zoraida has the ability: Hog Whispers are Wp 4. Lots of models in the Gremlin faction are Wp 4 or less. So, generally, you do one of two things: 1. Hire Gremlins and put the gremlins near the pigs. 2. Use Obey or a push or something else on the wild boar so that it's more than nine inches away from your models (or at least can't see your models).

Consider this situation: You have a Silurid next to Wild Boar #1, and the other Wild Boar is 6" over with no gremlin model near it. Those are the only three models on the table and there's no terrain on that section of the table. The Silurid next to Wild Boar #1 isn't a friendly Gremlin model, so it doesn't prevent Bayou Rampage making the wild boar charge. When Wild Boar #1 activates, it has to charge someone. Both Wild Boar #2 and the Silurid are valid targets to charge. When Wild Boar #2 activates, it has to charge someone. Both Wild Boar #1 and the Silurid are valid targets to charge.

I'm not sure what "hiring priority" flip you're talking about, but... Everyone's models that are in charge range and line of sight are potential legal targets for the wild boars. Yours, the other player's models, etc. * All of that fancy stuff in the "if it is not ...." section doesn't make any of those models invalid targets for charging. Those wild boars don't have to charge the nearest model, but whatever they do charge has to be in range due to how the charge rules are written. What does being in a tournament have to do with anything? Two easy steps: 1. Declare your faction as Gremlins. 2. Hire Zoraida and McTavish on the same crew because they're both Gremlins. The alternative: 1. Declare your faction as Neverborn 2. Hire Zoraida, take the Tarot Reading upgrade, and hire McTavish (which you can do because he's a Swampfiend, and the Bayou Servants ability lets Zoraida hire out-of-faction Swampfiend models). [*] The requirement to charge a model is to end in engagement range of the model, not to end up engaging them: That means that it's legal to charge a friendly model. Because it's legal, pigs have to do it if you can't find a legal enemy model to charge.

A somewhat more thorough follow up answer... The main difference between a block of text being in the body of an action, and a block of text being in a trigger, is that being in the text of a trigger has is to make that block of text more difficult to resolve (and complicate the timing process ). Once you're resolving it, everything is pretty much equal. So consider the made up attack action: vs another made up attack action with a trigger: In both v0 and v1, if the attack succeeds, Burning +1 is applied. In v1, the trigger lets additional text come in to play "After succeeding, target (also) gains Poison +1." So a bunch of extra work has to be done in order to get that text resolved. Compare your made up example: Name of trigger: After succeeding friendly models within 2 gains the slow condition. Models that gains the slow condition may make a 1/2/4 heal flip and a made up tactical action: Or compare the text in Rip in Half: to what a tactical action would look like: In both cases, you have a process you step through and then eventually you get to the part where you resolve "All enemy models within 6 immediately perform a TN 12 Horror Duel." The trigger process makes you go through that elaborate secondary process to unlock that block of text, and then add the rules about when to resolve that block of text, but really that's all it does. Tangent point on the topic of "linked" immunity. This paragraph: is not describing a Condition. The immunity to Horror Duels which results from passing a Horror Duel is not a Condition. (And trying to specify that immunity as a condition would be sort of elaborate...) As such, if Lelu passes a Horror Duel, Lelu gains the immunity but Lilitu doesn't because: 1. No Condition was applied. 2. Lelu performed the Horror duel, Lilitu didn't.

Simple answer: No. There's the occasional case where the wording of the condition is misplaced, but if a trigger says: you don't end up with some bizarre quantum-entangled instance of the Burning condition. The two examples that you're quoting are of the form: - A model can choose to do X. If it does so, then Y happens. Those aren't defining conditions.

You appear to be mistaken about having a choice on basing the hoarcats. Hoarcat Pride (Minion, Living, beast, swarm) is 40mm. There is no other option in 2nd edition.

Just to answer this on its own, in the most explicit manner possible: NO. The rules of the game are not optional, and do not become option due to the logistics of plastic or metal model construction. Creation of rat kings from rats is mandatory. Failure to have the appropriate rat king models on hand does not invalidate the rule. At best (or worst), it means that your fellow gracious Malifaux players will provide you with models that you can use for the Rat King models for the duration of the game, because to deprive a player of the full and proper rules for their models due to a deficiency in representation would be unconscionable. Disclaimer: At a tournament, the organizer may have in place a policy that a summoned model which a player does not have the model for simply fails while the rest of the effect or action continues as possible. In such a case, the unavailable Rat King model would not be summoned (the summoning would fail, just like a rare limit had been exceeded) but the rat models would still be removed from play. But that isn't a policy specified in the Gaining Grounds 2016 document.

1. This is a physical logistics issue (and thus an answer which depends on the physical logistics choices made by the tournament or play group you're a part of). According to the game, you have an infinite supply of the proper models so that you can always follow the instructions. 2. Ask the tournament organizer. See also the answer to #1. Do note that it is within the right of a tournament organizer to allow, or forbid, proxies, substitute tokens of the appropriate size, small rats mounted on the appropriate sized plastic shapes, Reaper Bones rats on 30mm bases, cardboard dioramas, or even just a 30mm base with the words "rat" written on the top. According to the Gaining Grounds documentation, the standard for a Gaining Grounds tournament is: That would rule out the use of plastic toy rats without additional work, but wouldn't rule out speed sculpting to produce the necessary rat figures (subject to the tournament organizer's approval, of course). Please explain your intent in asking this question. Here's the Sportsmanship paragraph from the Gaining Grounds 2016 document: What elements of your question are not covered by that statement?