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Interested, but it will depend on when I move house

I was torn between this and one in the outpost but a shot at a limited mah card I couldn't resist!

Truby with a b

Now updated to change the sportsmanship voting. Now you do not score your opponent.

That would be sweet. Turning into a pan-european event!

Can't argue with that

Ticket for jen and Connor as team Ancestral vengeance

Good point well made. Another solution, and I feel bad for suggesting it as it means more work for kai, but how about all of the above. Just have an option on the rankings to see how each team does in each system. It's just for banter so we don't even need to dub one of them 'official'

The number could be larger to make it more infeasible that a couple of people could contribute. Say 50

As always a well reasoned argument Doxey. I just don't like the idea that anyone not in the top of the team just gets ignored. I can accept that pushing out those who are not doing well is something to avoid though. Perhaps there should just be a cap on team size and then groups can have an a team and a b team and so on. Then hoovering is avoided but everyone is involved? Just a suggestion.

Interested. I am almost always up for more games so I vote 4

realised I can't make this after all. Sorry guys

Thanks kai. You're a star

Who said I wasn't taking them too...

think I am paid up

yep that was just a typo. Hope that makes sense now

No you can't actually in game declare it if you don't have it, which means you can't get points from your hidden scheme while you are bluffing another. If you did then you actually are cheating.

I think in order to be classed as cheating you have to break a rule. I don't think lying breaks a rule. Of course, I think it's not the most friendly actions to take. In the end you will just get a reputation for lying, personally I'm not sure that's worth it. It's almost like saying you are really bad, that you have no idea what you are doing and that you will definitely not get through to day two of the masters. Right Craig

Paid for Jen and me - team ancestral vengeance

Fair enough. I will change the criteria of sporting award at sins of the North

I think there is a code of conduct in game and then there is general social etiquette. I am not going to award people for coming to an event for wearing sensible clothing (Conrad) or being respectful towards other beliefs and race. I want to keep toy soldier awards about toy soldiers. I don't think we *need* this conversation, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have it or nothing can come up for it. You are right that it is up to people to do what they want, but discussing what people would and wouldn't like to see might be useful for TOs in the future. I agree that twitter is a terrible place to have the discussion.

I just want to be clear and say I didn't want to standardise anything. However having an established system, such as the rankings, will encourage a format. No one has forced Europe to play doubles differently to the states but it does and people tend to stick to that format. I also don't think sportsmanship and awards are mutually exclusive, hence I don't believe the rankings are bad for the community. I think sportsmanship can have a criteria. There are clearly actions people should and shouldn't take. A code of conduct is something you either meet or don't. I can see how people don't want to spend loads of times in events filling in forms, but I hadn't intended for my criteria to turn into a tax return. 5 boxes where you put between 0 -2 is hardly time intensive, you already tend to fill in a score sheet I don't know how you could possibly consider actions outside of the game. That isn't the point of the event. I also don't think there is much point debating whether there is 'an issue'. I think it has no impact on whether we would like to see more awards for best sports. Also, to explain my point better, I never intended to give a soft score bonus to results. I was just making best sports points out of 10 for example. Finally, I do really like the idea of just giving one of your opponents a vote and then keeping track of these votes across the year.

agreed