Hateful Darkblack Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Am I nuts? Would this work? Tara can have a Death Marshall bury Hans, then use his (1) actions with her Upgrade. At that point, she can shoot the Upgrades off the enemy leader across the table, without the "discard two cards" thing from Hans' card. Has anyone done this? Does it work? Is it worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireuser Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yeah, nothing stopping it, and since Tara can use SS she has an easier time than Hans does. She does need an 8 and a 11 to make it work, and needs to be in range of the opposing master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yeah, nothing stopping it, and since Tara can use SS she has an easier time than Hans does. She does need an 8 and a 11 to make it work, and needs to be in range of the opposing master. If she Focuses too, that range is 36", isn't it? With 6 AP each turn, she can afford to Focus and shoot a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 It's 6ap that requires you to spend one to copy Smile, then one to take the shot. So you can shoot twice with no focus, or shoot once with focus. You'd have to copy smile each activation as it only lasts to the end of the activation. At best you'd get two focussed shots, or four normal ones, each turn. That's if you don't have to move to get into position, and you don't get to ignore auras/pulses etc. It sounds good, but it seems like it's a lot of resources just to dink an upgrade off a master - Hans not doing anything, a death marshals activation, and all of Tara's efforts (and her upgrade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Good point Mako. It's definitely a lot of resources to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cain Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 And Hans must start the turn buried. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted January 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yep, it requires some setup. You also need to burn some cards to make sure the Death Marshall keeps Hans in the Pine Box. I suspect, though, that the return on investment for all the resources needed might be quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Yep, it requires some setup. You also need to burn some cards to make sure the Death Marshall keeps Hans in the Pine Box. I suspect, though, that the return on investment for all the resources needed might be quite good. I'm not so sure. There are very few masters that are utterly crippled without their upgrades, and in the mean time you are parking Tara in shooting/charging/whatever range all turn. The only masters I can think of who'd really object would be dreamer and Yan lo. Dreamer can just dump the shot off and I'm pretty sure Yan Los totem stops this trick in its tracks. For my money I'd throw the fast killjoy into the opposing master and just KILL them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDisaster Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Seems like a fun little trick to try out but the labour put into pulling it off hardly seems to warrant the reward gained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sezar Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 And don't forget that Tara´s opponent can just kill anyone model and instantly unbury Hans in contact with it, risking your valuable and costy Hans to be in an unwanted dangerous place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96p Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 And don't forget that Tara´s opponent can just kill anyone model and instantly unbury Hans in contact with it, risking your valuable and costy Hans to be in an unwanted dangerous place. not if he's buried by a death marshall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 not if he's buried by a death marshall Exactly! Or if you use Karina with her upgrade and keep her near the fight. This is a "cute" trick, but unless you can guarantee the rest of her crew is out there grabbing objectives, its A LOT of AP for something that may cripple the master. If you're taking Hans with Tara I think he does better going solo taking upgrades off the other models (i.e. non-master). Let him do his thing while Tara goes around doing her thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted January 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2014 Tried this in a game today. It was okay, but not crazy effective, even with Student of Conflict pumping her AP. Having more sniper fire was nice. Never was worth it to shoot the Upgrades off my opponent, honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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