harbinger Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Hey, anyone with experience using pine-sol or simple green (if can find some in town, never seen) on plastic or resin minis? My youngin got impatient waiting for me to get out the hospital and "painted" a couple her super dungeon explore minis. Not only did she not get the result was hoping for, she did not clean off the horrid flash lines. Im assuming they wont harm but would like to verify before have to buy another 85$ box set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmiles Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Simple green is fine for resin. Pine-Sol...notsomuch. You can usually pick some Simple Green up at a chain store like Wal-Mart or Costco, or someplace like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconnor1 Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 so do you have to make your own base inserts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustcrusher Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I've left old GW plastics in Simple Green for days with no loss of detail that I could see. I love that stuff. Pine-Sol is for metals only. Melts plastic and (from what I've read) probably isn't kind to resin, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 The models don't come with base inserts. They only come with the model and a flat plain base. Any detailing you wish to do on the base has to be self created, or base inserts bought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Simple green will take off paint on plastic although I find the models need to sit in it longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonn Agram Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Thanks for all the tips, so if I mess up you recommend just priming over the entire figure again and starting over? or am I misunderstanding? won't the paint layers pile up too much? Also I think I just realized everyone's Seamus bases are different. Does the box not include base inserts? will I have to make my own? sorry I left that part blurry, paint over the mistake, not the entire model and yes, you'll have to make your own bases - no inserts in the box... so you'll have to make your own... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustcrusher Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'm using these to base my Redchapel box: http://frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=52657 FRPGames is one of the few places I know in the states where they are relatively cheap. Some stores do carry them though. You'll need the heavy clippers I mentioned (or a jeweler's saw or hobby saw) to cut the base tabs off, needle files and/or sandpaper to smooth the feet down, and a pin vice with bits and some paper clips, shirt pins, or florist wire (depending on foot and ankle size) to pin them down. It's far easier than it sounds- I'm still new to it and I'm getting great results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmiles Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Pinning can be overrated at times. Very few of my minis are pinned, and I have very little problem with breakage. Gorilla Glue is awesome. But you'll still need the rest of the supplies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciaran Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Simple green will take off paint on plastic although I find the models need to sit in it longer. I suggest Superclean. I find that even Simple Green will damage plastic, over time. Superclean won't do anything to metal or plastic, except pull the paint, primer, and superglue off. The paint literally started to fall off of Zoraida, within hours. I hit it with a toothbrush and it's cleaner than the day I bought it. It's cheaper in bulk than Simple Green as well (from Wal Mart). If you use it beware, it's HELL on skin. It's a biodegradable engine degreaser, so, wear gloves of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmiles Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Where do you get it, AutoZone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconnor1 Posted February 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I'm using these to base my Redchapel box: http://frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=52657 FRPGames is one of the few places I know in the states where they are relatively cheap. Some stores do carry them though. You'll need the heavy clippers I mentioned (or a jeweler's saw or hobby saw) to cut the base tabs off, needle files and/or sandpaper to smooth the feet down, and a pin vice with bits and some paper clips, shirt pins, or florist wire (depending on foot and ankle size) to pin them down. It's far easier than it sounds- I'm still new to it and I'm getting great results. Those look nice and they're cheap too! too bad they're out of stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmiles Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 You can order them direct, here: http://www.shop.microartstudio.com/battle-bases-c-3.html But expect a 2-4 week lead time on your order, they come all the way from Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backno Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 For stripping minis I use nothing but Simple Green. You can leave metal, plastic, or resin things in it for months with no ill effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewomie Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 afterwards, wash your mini. Basicly you can do all the minis with Badab Black or Devlan Mud (choose whichever you like more) EXCEPT the skin - but don't dip it, use the brush! wash the skin in Ogryn Flesh (that's how I do mine (see my avatar to the left) - I know some people wash with Devlan Mud but I find it a bit too dirty looking). Now you're done washing.. So, last night i tried the Ogryn Flesh wash on some of my show girls..... OH MY GOD, you aren't kidding. Easily the best wash for skin that i've used. I'll admit, i used the bahab black thinking, "shadows are black... dur dur dur" but i was never stoked about the end result. once the black wash dries they look like mechanics with greace all over their faces. But the Ogryn Flesh wash is brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonn Agram Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 OH MY GOD, you aren't kidding. well I try not to kid around with painting anyway glad I could help... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 If you use it beware, it's HELL on skin. It's a biodegradable engine degreaser, so, wear gloves of some sort. Thats why I stick to simple green. You can handle it without gloves. The worst that happens is you smell minty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustcrusher Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 I suggest Superclean. I find that even Simple Green will damage plastic, over time. Superclean won't do anything to metal or plastic, except pull the paint, primer, and superglue off. The paint literally started to fall off of Zoraida, within hours. I hit it with a toothbrush and it's cleaner than the day I bought it. It's cheaper in bulk than Simple Green as well (from Wal Mart). If you use it beware, it's HELL on skin. It's a biodegradable engine degreaser, so, wear gloves of some sort. Interesting. Not sure if I should use it thought- as a condo dweller I don't even have a garden hose, much less a garage and laundry sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonn Agram Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 for removing paint from my metal minis I use ordinary acetone (for removing nail polish - I sometimes even swipe some from my GF, don't tell her ). it works really well. Unfortunately, you can't use it on plastic models because it'll dissolve it, but fortunately Wyrd doesn't have plastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmiles Posted February 10, 2012 Report Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) [threadjack] @Dustcrusher: Payne's Gray wash. He didn't really go into specifics. My normal method is base -> highlight -> extreme highlight -> wash (to tone it down and smooth it together). Does this work with the Payne's Gray? Or should I wash before I highlight? [/threadjack] Edited February 10, 2012 by dsmiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconnor1 Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 (edited) Wow this is going to get expensive I can tell! I ordered my seamus crew, should be here next week, but I still gotta buy a fate deck. Now I want paints, brushes, green stuff, a miniatures drill, metal snips, a hobby knife, and a model file. Holy cow. I'm so excited to get started, but not for spending all this money... haha. My friend ordered a Ramos crew too and he's excited too. Edited February 11, 2012 by iconnor1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Wow this is going to get expensive I can tell! I ordered my seamus crew, should be here next week, but I still gotta buy a fate deck. Now I want paints, brushes, green stuff, a miniatures drill, a hobby knife, and a model file. Holy cow. I'm so excited to get started, but not for spending all this money... haha. My friend ordered a Ramos crew too and he's excited too. Ramos is so much fun, still one of my fave masters. The initial outlay for everything is expensive...do you have the rules manual? after the first big outlay of money though it gets kinder...well until you see all them lovely models to add to your crews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsmiles Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 Wow this is going to get expensive I can tell! Nah. It's not expensive. I haven't invested tens of thousands of dollars in miniatures over the past few years. (By "few" I mean "25.") It's not an addiction, it's a HOBBY, dammit! *wink* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconnor1 Posted February 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 I just hope my crew turns out decent haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrouchingMoose Posted February 11, 2012 Report Share Posted February 11, 2012 It's not an addiction, it's a HOBBY, dammit! *wink* No, its an addiction...its just more reusable than most addictions *wink* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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