Blasts and ignoring them (Bearskin Armor)

[Alviaran]

Can't find anything on this, so I was curious on the interaction.

Bearskin Armor: This model may choose to ignore damage

infliced by pulses, auras, and blasts.

(Also, that is a direct copy paste with adjustment for the p, a and b from the V2 stat card. Yes, that typo is on the card)

The question came up when we were playing with Rasputina vs Criid tonight. Flame Burst causes blasts on moderate and severe damage. If I manage to hit Rasputina with the spell (she loses the resist duel), can she ignore the damage if I flip moderate or severe?

I guess the question comes down to whether the initial damage is considered to be coming from the blast marker I have just placed on the target? Or does she take the normal damage and the blasts do not ever affect an initial target of a spellcast?

[ProdigalPunk]

The initial damage is not blast damage. Only models hit from the markers are hit by the blast damage. So she would still take damage if she fails to resist the duel.

[goblyn13]

The initial damage is still the initial damage, just because it generates blasts it does not mean she can ignore them as she was the intended target. the blasts are collateral damage and only affects everyone who was not the initial target.

from the Rules Manual pg 46:

Any model, other than the initial target, touched by one or more suffers damage one severity lower than what was inflicted on the target. Any additional effects suffered by the target, such as the effects of Triggers, are not suffered by the other models touched by the unless specifically stated otherwise.

Since she's the initial target, she's not suffering damage. she's just suffering damage.

[Alviaran]

Excellent. That's what I thought but the blasts section in the manual seemed rather vague about that to me.

[ArcticFox]

A related question:

Does being immune to also apply to :blast?

[Wolfgar]

A related question:

Does being immune to also apply to :blast?

Yes, definitely.

[Omenbringer]

To support and extrapolate on Wolfgar's post above

:blast just means 2 templates are placed (50mm bases that for the most part must be touching the original target and each other) so being immune to damage means that you ignore it no matter how many :blasts are placed (though a model only suffers blast damage once from the attack regardless of how many templates end up touching there base)

Edited December 29, 2011 by Omenbringer

[Kadeton]

:blast just means 2 templates are placed (50mm bases that for the most part must be touching the original target and each other)

Just wanted to clarify that only the first blast template needs to touch the original target's base. The second one only needs to touch the first. You can string them out in a line away from the target if you wish.

[Omenbringer]

Thanks for the additional clarification Kadeton.

[ArcticFox]

Thanks for the extra clarification.

The question only occurred to me because on the Avatar Raspy card the description for Encased in Ice explicitly phrases it as "one or more :blast" and I wasn't sure if the different wording was significant or if it was only a clarification.