Matamane Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I am finding that he is a load of dead weight in matches, and since I am dropping dogs for desperate Mercenaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I am finding that he is a load of dead weight in matches, and since I am dropping dogs for desperate Mercenaries. Try replacing him with Mortimer. Some People like his ability to get a corpse counter better. Plus he adds a bit of ranged attacks to your Res list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matamane Posted September 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I am going to be running this for 30ss. Dr. Douglas McMourning, Morgue Master Zombie Chihuahua Desperate Mercenary Desperate Mercenary Bete Noire Nurse 11ss left I am thinking of Molly. Can Mortimer summon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonWyll Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Mortimer can summon but out of interest, what is the problem you seem to be having with Sebastian? I personally find Sebastian to be an incredible utility and can't really imagine what my list would look like without him. I know that a lot of people on the forums have commented on him being quite slow are you experiencing similar problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shekbo Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Sebastian really shines with a partner, and not really otherwise. He's slow, but if you *can* get him into melee, he wrecks. Partner him with a belle or even bete and he can be a powerhouse. That said, I prefer morty myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zethal Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 So Molly looks really cool, but what makes her looks so cool is Necrotic Spray and Impossible Knowledge. Unfortunately in this game more things are non-living then living. Unless I miss counted the break down is below. Living/Total 23/30 guild 8/34 ressie 17/35 arcanists 15/33 Neverborn Total non-Merc Models. Only 63/132 or 48% of models in the game are living. Which really creates a problem. Even if you know what Faction the opponent is playing as each group can create an all non-living force. Thus Necrotic Spray and giving it to other units is greatly lessened and highly situational. Its going to be amazing vs Lilith and Marcus but useless vs Ramos, Hoffman, all other Ressies, Dreamer, Tina and the others are somewhere in between, and the faction with the most living is the Guild and they are going to want to stay far away you making the 1" range not super useful. This greatly weakens her if you expect to be using her in a tournament, but incredibly powerful if your just playing with a few friends and they tend to use living models. Otherwise Extraordinary Dead and Whispered Secret[/b are pretty decent. But as you have no Belle's to use ED or Imbue Vigor to good effect I wouldn't suggest using Molly. Necrotic Machine on the other hand...amazing. And I'm going to jump in the give sebastian another try group. He is one of the most powerful models available to the Ressies IMO and now that you can easily make him undead... He does great damage with a weak strike of 3, passes corpse counters, companions dogs (I know you took yours out), is a melee expert and most importantly has your most reliable AoE damage with Bloody Harvest. The extra body part counters for Doug is nice or the summoning a dog with his own is a nice perk as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matamane Posted September 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 I've played two tournaments and won both, and I've found that Sebastian is little more than dead weight. Upon further analysis, Molly is a bad choice, but I am shaky about continuing to use Sebastian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchethead Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Last tourney I played in, Sebastian owned face. I play him aggressive with dogs and found him very useful. Came in second, never got a chance to play the winner 'cause time ran out. FIXED! .... I would hesitate to build a McM list without the Seb. But that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonWyll Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Don't underestimate Sebastian, he's capable of really putting the hurt on anything he gets into contact with. The trick is making sure he doesn't get jumped because yes, as everyone keeps saying, he can be a bit slow. So you want to keep him shielded. You can use a Flesh Construct to do this quite effectivly (by summoning one with Mcmourning), but I unless I am seriously concerned (like i am fighting the Ortegas) I generally use a Belle or Crooked Man for support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matamane Posted September 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Does Mortimer have Reanimator or a summon ability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Does Mortimer have Reanimator or a summon ability? I think his spell is "Make my own Friend". Its a lot less powerful then reanimator. I rarely, if ever, use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodschow Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 It's generally not worth summoning with Mortimer.. Takes high cards, is inefficient and somewhat limited in what he can call forth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProdigalPunk Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Does Mortimer have Reanimator or a summon ability? For two corpse counters he can pretty much summon one of the following: Belle, Miner, a dog, a necropunk, or a autopsy. If you are playing with Nico then not really worth it, with McM on the other hand it gives you a little more flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zethal Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Never worth it with Nico as his summon is a 1 action and a spell. So he can cast it 3 times per round. It's half decent for Doug though giving out some varied summons and allows for more then one summon per round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raintar Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 You should use the Dead Rider combo with Grave Spirit, it's brutal. Also the nurses with Desperate Mercenaries and incredibly nasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippieshopper Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I dunno...they seem to have a fair bit of damage if you do "For my Family" and that healing flip on death is kinda nice, but the cool thing about the ressers is that they don't suffer from their losses as badly as some of the other factions. I guess considering that nobody really summons dogs, other than the occasional one you might fling out with Sebs, the mercenary thing is an idea. But I have to agree with the others, Sebs is a beast. I've taken him and two puppies and downed masters with them. Against Somer's army...he's brutal. Bloody Harvest can kill most of the gremlins that swarm him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matamane Posted September 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 What's the Dead Rider combo with Grave Spirit, and what's the total points total to pull it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matamane Posted September 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Aside from giving the Rider Armor 2, is it worth 11 points to have more ability to dissect, or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodschow Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I'd never let go of the Chihuahua with McMourning.. Sebastian on the other hand is much less interesting (with my optics anyway).. He's a true melee beatstick so seems to support Douglas well, I just think he's much too slow to be really useful at that. Maybe with extensive use of Belles he'd be a more attractive option. Hmm.. I dunno.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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