Navar Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 Are there any? If not could someone make them. I love the game and I am about to expand to another "crew" but I would love to be able to write my lists easily and print them out using Army Builder. Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joona Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 This isn't exactly a game that benefits much from any list builders. Because the scenarios are randomized and you never know what you are facing, building a list at home might not be the best option. You are supposed to make your list as pretty much the last thing before you start playing. And counting mostly single digit numbers shouldn't be that much of a chore. http://www.engineeringcalculator.net/CrewBuilder.html This on works though if you want to make some lists just to get the general idea what you can fit in your lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 As Joona said, you REALLY don't need any sort of list-builder program for a game like this. Writing a list for a game is a ridiculously simple process - Pick the models you want until their combined SS cost adds up to whatever sized game you're playing. The link Joona gave is great for randomly working out crews you've yet to buy models for. For example, I've been using it to plan prospective crews I'm thinking of getting, such as Zoraida without Bad Juju, McMourning, or a "Pandy the Babysitter" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbdrand Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I disagree. I think there is a lot of usefulness in prepping different lists before hand. And even if you do it at the last minute it's a heck of a lot easier to have your laptop with you and be able to throw together different builds. I'm not sure what would be needed to make an Army Builder module for Malifaux but I'm going to try and find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLegacy Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 I personally am working on a Crew Builder for Malifaux as we speak because I can see the use of having one with all the special rules that Masters have in choosing their minions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flikfutch87 Posted March 19, 2010 Report Share Posted March 19, 2010 And I'm putting together an Excel file that lists all model's stats, and has separate sheets with quick descriptions of all weapons, talents and spells (As well as who can use them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazza Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 And I'm putting together an Excel file that lists all model's stats, and has separate sheets with quick descriptions of all weapons, talents and spells (As well as who can use them). I don't think that this would be something allowed by Wyrd to be released for download anywhere. We've had this discussion before and I'm pretty sure that releasing the rules/stats in any way shape or form other than the book was a big no-no... It's understandable, if the stuff is easily downloaded then the company doesn't sell books... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flikfutch87 Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Fair enough, I'll of course honor that. But for personal use, it definitely comes in handy for me when I need to remind myself what a particular effect entails and such and I've forgotten where it is in the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q'iq'el Posted March 20, 2010 Report Share Posted March 20, 2010 Seeing how small the size of the lists is and how all the rules and stats are written for the game card format, perhaps an iPhone/Droid/Mobile Windows App format would be the most convenient for it? An opportunity for Wyrd too, as I see it - an App not only to create and store your own and your opponents' lists, but also to reference all the spells, abilities, triggers etc., so that one can immediately check the references when planning for the game on the go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebiros Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 I'm always fascinated when I see threads like this. I guess I'm just old-fashioned, but the cards that come with the miniature pretty much cover all the bases. Adding to reach 30 isn't that tough. Army Builder is a great tool for games that require complex list building, like 40k. However, Malifaux doesn't have that much complexity in it's list building aspect. There are some ideal lists, but most of those have already been figured out for you...they're called Starter Boxes. I guess if you've spent money on Army Builder, then you might want to see all of the games you play represented in that program, but I really can't see where it would be needed for any other reason. It no diffferent than the iPhone app idea. Sure, it would be great to have an app that gives you a card on your phone...because you spent a fortune on your phone. I don't think it would enhance the game of Malifaux much though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q'iq'el Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 It no diffferent than the iPhone app idea. Sure, it would be great to have an app that gives you a card on your phone...because you spent a fortune on your phone. I don't think it would enhance the game of Malifaux much though. Oh, the mobile App idea is not about enhancing the game itself. It's rather an idea for the on-the-go database that allows you to casually check out ideas and perhaps store or even share some lists you may suddenly come up with, while you don't have the cards, the minis and the handbook with you. Just like everything mobile, it's about cool factor, convenience and geekiness, but never necessity. Of course the IP contents would be the point of it, that's why I suggested it as a product idea Wyrd could look into, rather than fan-build army list software. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beshkno Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 Bravo! Thanks for the realistic perspective. Just add folks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbdrand Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 I agree. I would certainly buy an iPhone based Malifaux app if it included a basic crew builder and hopefully the stat cards. Especially since the iPad is coming out right around the corner. I'd love to be able to keep everything Malifaux related on my iPad instead of carrying a bunch of pieces of paper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xankriegor Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 How about using ArmyCalc? I just found out about it today. It could be a good alternative to Army Builder And it's free Now we just need someone to create a Malifaux ruleset for ArmyCalc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbdrand Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 How about using ArmyCalc? I just found out about it today. It could be a good alternative to Army Builder And it's free Now we just need someone to create a Malifaux ruleset for ArmyCalc. Ohhh. Never heard of it, but free is always good. If it's user modifable then we should be able to put something together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbdrand Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I am reviewing the documentation related to the TWR files now. I'm going to try and put something together, but not sure how long this will take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joona Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 If someone is going to add the actual stats for miniatures in any software, at least do the courtesy of asking Nathan for permission. I don't know if he has anything against this but generally it's not nice to give away the full statistics for all the miniatures in any game for free. Of course the cards come with miniatures but this would also make playing without the real miniatures/cards/rulebook that much easier. At least Privateer Press and Games Workshop aren't exactly loving the way Army Builder has been supplying their files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbdrand Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 Agreed. I wouldn't ever release something to the public without asking for permission first, but no point in even asking until someone has something half-way put together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talishko Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I have TableTop Commander for WarmaHordes (shame I don't play it xD), I think it's great, has collection function too. Also you can print out an army sheet that has all the usual info (points, links, ranks) plus wound markers for all the models, but not the 'restricted' data such as abilities and weapons. Imho that's the best solution for every one. We have all we need on one sheet and don't need to mess up the cards for wounds and the company's rights weren't violated either. Would love to see Malifaux files for it too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicideCommando Posted March 24, 2010 Report Share Posted March 24, 2010 I might get around to making something for Android if I can find the time. iPhone is a whole lot less likely despite the large install base because (from what I know) it requires you to develop on a Mac, which I don't have. I agree with the not providing details that would compromise Wyrds products. The issue is finding that line where it's not really hurting but is still providing a lot of information to the user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbdrand Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I just heard back from someone at Army Builder. Looks like Malifaux for AB is starting development soon so I'm not going to bother with anything else. I paid for AB, might as well use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talishko Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 looks like I'll have to make the database for ttc for myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicideCommando Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 I just heard back from someone at Army Builder. Looks like Malifaux for AB is starting development soon so I'm not going to bother with anything else. I paid for AB, might as well use it. Be careful saying the phrase "Army Builder", you might get a cease and desist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calisto Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Be careful saying the phrase "Army Builder", you might get a cease and desist. Except he's using it to refer to the actual product by that name. The issuer comes up when you use it to refer to Ibodger or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbdrand Posted March 25, 2010 Report Share Posted March 25, 2010 Yeah. I think that's a little crazy myself. I think that the AB folks seem to remind me of a young Bill Gates when he went off on a tirade about people stealing his software, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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