Molly Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 As per the title, is there any model that has a particular synergy, or is it a keyword that does not use versatile ook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindbadger Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 The Emissary can be good, Take The Hit can protect Jedza, gives out shielded, is a tanky boy so benefits from being healed and his aura can trigger Chronicle effects on your opponent's turn. Just have to remember it! Vernon and Welles can be good against WP attacks but also as a very mobile scheme runner who doesn't need to stay in the bubble. OOK, Winston Finnigan gives arcane reservoir, a bunch of support and card filtering and Luck Thief can again trigger Chronicle effects on your opponent's turn. I tend to stay in keyword a fair amount though, Seeker has some great models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted September 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 @Mindbadger thank you! What do you think about Botanists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Molly said: @Mindbadger thank you! What do you think about Botanists? I'm not sure you are getting an easy way to power them up. It's not impossible, you can get geode markers to break, but its quite a lot of effort to get it going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindbadger Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Yeah, they are good models but work better in other keywords, they don't have the best of synergies with Seeker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hydranixx Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 I reckon Botanists have some play with Seeker if you hire a Lamplighter. Jedza can remove one of your two free Dim Lamps early one with Lost Knowledge to give your Botanists one grow token each. As the game develops, they can either hunker down in the scrum where they'll love your remaining Lamp once it's Lit - Df6 on a is still very hard to hit, and if the opponent removes it they get another free Grow token anyway - or they can spread out and score for you. With Grim Feast or hitting the trigger on their Shockwave or trigger on their melee they can most likely secure a second Grow token at some stage even without other models actively removing markers. Each time a nearby eligible Marker is removed, Botanists Heal +1 so there's a bit of Chronicle trigger synergy there. Is it the best crew to support Botanists? No. But will the crew sometimes still want to hire 1-2 Botanists? Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 19 hours ago, hydranixx said: I reckon Botanists have some play with Seeker if you hire a Lamplighter. Jedza can remove one of your two free Dim Lamps early one with Lost Knowledge to give your Botanists one grow token each. As the game develops, they can either hunker down in the scrum where they'll love your remaining Lamp once it's Lit - Df6 on a is still very hard to hit, and if the opponent removes it they get another free Grow token anyway - or they can spread out and score for you. With Grim Feast or hitting the trigger on their Shockwave or trigger on their melee they can most likely secure a second Grow token at some stage even without other models actively removing markers. Each time a nearby eligible Marker is removed, Botanists Heal +1 so there's a bit of Chronicle trigger synergy there. Is it the best crew to support Botanists? No. But will the crew sometimes still want to hire 1-2 Botanists? Yes. Don't forget Lamplighters can make more lamps, and early in the game that's not a significant cost. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I was wondering if the same reasoning could be done with one or two surveyors, but I think so... A piece heals; a geode marker is created, therefore it is possible remove it with Jedza already on the first turn... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Molly said: I was wondering if the same reasoning could be done with one or two surveyors, but I think so... A piece heals; a geode marker is created, therefore it is possible remove it with Jedza already on the first turn... You could do that, but I find that enforced activation requirement and use of master actions to power them up is not always what you want to be doing. Surveyors are a good choice to try and get turn 1 heals because they can easily hurt themselves with price of progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogan Style Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 If you do get the ruling that auras count as terrain then Botanists will also heal 1 when the Kurgan puts up the mudslide aura, or when they start within 2" of a Moorwraith. This will proc. Chronicles but will need someone to damage them. Maybe Sophie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Kogan Style said: If you do get the ruling that auras count as terrain then Botanists will also heal 1 when the Kurgan puts up the mudslide aura, or when they start within 2" of a Moorwraith. This will proc. Chronicles but will need someone to damage them. Maybe Sophie? Its quite unlikely that they will change the rules to make terrain aura count as a marker, ( and Botanists need it to count as a marker for feed me) because that would have some huge effects, not least allowing lost knowledge to end a steam cloud, or working out how it would apply to Moorwraith rolling stomes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogan Style Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Adran said: Its quite unlikely that they will change the rules to make terrain aura count as a marker, ( and Botanists need it to count as a marker for feed me) because that would have some huge effects, not least allowing lost knowledge to end a steam cloud. If Botanist start their activation in Severe terrain, they heal one (Planted Roots). Mudslide and Moorwraiths have severe terrain auras. Nothing to do with Grow tokens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kogan Style said: If Botanist start their activation in Severe terrain, they heal one (Planted Roots). Mudslide and Moorwraiths have severe terrain auras. Nothing to do with Grow tokens. Sorry, misunderstood what you were saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly Posted October 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 another question please, just for confirmation if i understand correctly: feed me won't work if jedza removes kurgan (after mudslide) with her action? (i.e. she will draw 2 cards, kurgan will suffer 2 irreducible damage) but botanists will not take grow tokens because not being a seeker they do not consider kurgan as a marker. it's right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogan Style Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 A marker MUST be removed from the board in order for Botanist to get a grow token. It doesnt count as removing a marker if the model suffers damage instead of being removed (So the Corpse Curator and Kurgan won't count) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santaclaws01 Posted October 5, 2022 Report Share Posted October 5, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 2:11 AM, Kogan Style said: If you do get the ruling that auras count as terrain then Botanists will also heal 1 when the Kurgan puts up the mudslide aura, or when they start within 2" of a Moorwraith. This will proc. Chronicles but will need someone to damage them. Maybe Sophie? Aura terrain is terrain. The thing people argue is whether you can be in base contact with it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kogan Style Posted October 6, 2022 Report Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 hours ago, santaclaws01 said: Aura terrain is terrain. The thing people argue is whether you can be in base contact with it or not. You are correct, thanks for making it clear as I hadn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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