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I'm preparing a list to take to the next tournament. What do you think of this two?

Size: 50 - Pool: 4
Leader:
  Perdita Ortega
    No Prisoners
Totem(s):
  Enslaved Nephilim
Hires:
  Francisco Ortega
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Abuela Ortega
  Nino Ortega or Papa Loco (whats better?)
  Santiago Ortega
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Pale Rider

I don't have a Pathfinder yet, so i would go with a frontiersman instead.

Cornelius Basse (Guild)
Size: 50 - Pool: 5
Leader:
  Cornelius Basse
    Lead-Lined Coat
Totem(s):
  Bernadette Basse
Hires:
  Jonathan Reichart
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Austringer
    No Prisoners
  Pale Rider
  Frontiersman
  Paul Crockett
References:
  Skybound Ally

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1 hour ago, belorey said:

I'm preparing a list to take to the next tournament. What do you think of this two?

Size: 50 - Pool: 4
Leader:
  Perdita Ortega
    No Prisoners
Totem(s):
  Enslaved Nephilim
Hires:
  Francisco Ortega
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Abuela Ortega
  Nino Ortega or Papa Loco (whats better?)
  Santiago Ortega
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Pale Rider

I don't have a Pathfinder yet, so i would go with a frontiersman instead.

Cornelius Basse (Guild)
Size: 50 - Pool: 5
Leader:
  Cornelius Basse
    Lead-Lined Coat
Totem(s):
  Bernadette Basse
Hires:
  Jonathan Reichart
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Austringer
    No Prisoners
  Pale Rider
  Frontiersman
  Paul Crockett
References:
  Skybound Ally

Nothing wrong with either of those lists, though I don't think I would bother with no prisoners on the Austringer or perdita.  In the perdita list in particular, not having no prisoners means you could take both nino and papa, and leave out abuela.  That's how I would do it, but I think no prisoners is awful.

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43 minutes ago, 4thstringer said:

Nothing wrong with either of those lists, though I don't think I would bother with no prisoners on the Austringer or perdita.  [...]  That's how I would do it, but I think no prisoners is awful.

Really? Austringer can charge & shoot, then move, hide and shoot twice with raptor if i have :mask.

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If you bring 2 lists, you should maybe try to get one that does rely less on shooting in case you have a map with too much cover/concealment.

For Perdita's list, I would either bring Ninon and Papa, or none. Having models with the same cost is good in family and I like to have these 2 together.

I am also not convinced with the austringer, especially with an upgrade. For 9 points, you can have better models. His shot starts at 5, his raptor'sd min damage is 1, that seems underwhleming for 9. I would remove the LLC on reichardt who is already sturdy, and brige the pale rider insted of austringer + no prisoner

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1 hour ago, le_wahou said:

If you bring 2 lists, you should maybe try to get one that does rely less on shooting in case you have a map with too much cover/concealment.

For Perdita's list, I would either bring Ninon and Papa, or none. Having models with the same cost is good in family and I like to have these 2 together.

I am also not convinced with the austringer, especially with an upgrade. For 9 points, you can have better models. His shot starts at 5, his raptor'sd min damage is 1, that seems underwhleming for 9. I would remove the LLC on reichardt who is already sturdy, and brige the pale rider insted of austringer + no prisoner

Pale rider is already in both lists.

I think Austringer is pretty good.  Run and gun is pretty good.  But Austringer doesn't need run and gun to do the things it does well.

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16 hours ago, 4thstringer said:

Pale rider is already in both lists.

I think Austringer is pretty good.  Run and gun is pretty good.  But Austringer doesn't need run and gun to do the things it does well.

Get a second pale riders 🙂

Seriously, I would be more confident with a steward and a frontiersman thanwith austringer + no prisoner + LLC on Reichart

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Concerning Perdita, I have very good experiences with this list:

New Perdita Ortega Crew (Guild)
Size: 50 - Pool: 5
Leader:
  Perdita Ortega
    Lead-Lined Coat
Totem(s):
  Enslaved Nephilim
Hires:
  Francisco Ortega
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Abuela Ortega
  Nino Ortega
  Santiago Ortega
  Guild Steward
  Brutal Effigy
    Effigy of Fate

 

In a Perdita Crew, I would rather tend to take Effigy+Upgrade instead of Pale Rider. The Ortegas all are very mobile and have a lot of out of Activation possibilities. Also they all have good range attacks, so I don't know if you really need the Rider in this crew.

 

 

 

With the restrictions of no Pathfinder, I would set up the Basse Crew like this:

 

New Cornelius Basse Crew (Guild)
Size: 50 - Pool: 4
Leader:
  Cornelius Basse
Totem(s):
  Bernadette Basse
Hires:
  Jonathan Reichart
  Pale Rider
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Paul Crockett
  Austringer
  Frontiersman
  Frontiersman 2
 

But I think without a Pathfinder, you leave the best option in a Frontier Crew at home....

I would take a second Frontierman, because otherwise you lack modells who can do the scheming work.

 

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Ok, so finally the tournament its going to be a 40ss game and we must choose same master (and faction) for all games. I've been thinking in 3 diferent list:

Size: 40 - Pool: 3
Leader:
  Perdita Ortega
Totem(s):
  Enslaved Nephilim
Hires:
  Francisco Ortega
  Nino Ortega
  Santiago Ortega
    Lead-Lined Coat
  Pale Rider


Size: 40 - Pool: 4
Leader:
  Cornelius Basse
Totem(s):
  Bernadette Basse
Hires:
  Jonathan Reichart
    No Prisoners
  Paul Crockett
  Austringer
  Pale Rider
References:
  Skybound Ally


Size: 40 - Pool: 3
Leader:
  Charles Hoffman
Totem(s):
  Mechanical Attendant
Hires:
  Melissa K.O.R.E.
  Peacekeeper
  Mobile Toolkit
  Hunter
  Hunter 2

Which one do you think is more efficient for most missions?

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