HadjiMurat Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Hi! Can Cassandra use her upstage action to copy a tactical bonus action? Like leap from a Blessed of December? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 Yes she could, but it would count as her Bonus action for the turn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreyF Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 I wonder what will happen if Cassandra uses Colette's Sword Trick and uses Twist Ending. Will she ever be able to Unbury? She can't as that is attack action and Cassandra only copies tacticals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Adran said: Yes she could, but it would count as her Bonus action for the turn. Based on last sentence of the Actions Generated by Effects section on pg 34 "Actions generated in this way follow the normal sequence for Actions and do not count against a model’s Action limit." Sounds like a copied bonus action would not count as her bonus action for the activation, unless I'm missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Boomstick said: Based on last sentence of the Actions Generated by Effects section on pg 34 "Actions generated in this way follow the normal sequence for Actions and do not count against a model’s Action limit." Sounds like a copied bonus action would not count as her bonus action for the activation, unless I'm missing something. The rules for Bonus actions Limit you to one bonus action per activation. They also don't count towards your models action limits. So the limit to 1 bonus action isn't a models action limit There is a couple of call out boxes that clarify that Bonus Actions caused by Triggers can still be taken if you have already taken a bonus action this turn. Page 12, page 21 and page 22 should give you all the bonus action rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Adran said: The rules for Bonus actions Limit you to one bonus action per activation. They also don't count towards your models action limits. So the limit to 1 bonus action isn't a models action limit There is a couple of call out boxes that clarify that Bonus Actions caused by Triggers can still be taken if you have already taken a bonus action this turn. Page 12, page 21 and page 22 should give you all the bonus action rules Ah, I was missing that Bonus Actions themselves also don't count towards the action limit and was thinking that the action limit was defined as 2 actions (3 for Masters) + a bonus if applicable. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycellanious Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 So if Cassandra uses Upstage on a bonus action, it counts as 1 of her actions AND her bonus action? That sucks real bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 47 minutes ago, Mycellanious said: So if Cassandra uses Upstage on a bonus action, it counts as 1 of her actions AND her bonus action? That sucks real bad Yes, so only do it if you really need that bonus action to happen in her turn. I'm sure there are times when it is worth it. But most of the time its probably not. But options are good so at least allowing the action to copy bonus actions is better for her than not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadjiMurat Posted October 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 Good clarifiaction on action limits! So this means my super leaping, double walking Cassandra theory wont happen (using upstage on Blessed leap). But could be good to get out of engagement, over terrain etc. But certainly needs more thought when to use Upstage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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