Is there a consensus on the timing of one of Dreamer's summons landing if Zoraida's obey is the failed willpower effect? At a guess, the timing would be:
Enemy fails willpower duel, which generates the placement effect for the summon. However, as an 'after resolving' effect, it resolves after the action finishes resolving.
The obey action proceeds to resolve its effect, which generates an action on the obeyed model. The action doesn't happen until ALL other effects are finished resolving (page 34, actions generated by actions).
Resolve triggers for obey (either dealing 2 damage and giving fast, or generating another action). if this generates another action, it can't happen until everything else (including the previous action) is resolved.
Obey is finished resolving, with one effect (dreamer summon placement) and 1-2 actions (from obey) waiting to take place.
Dreamer summon placement resolves (and if it is an alp, generates an additional attack action).
Action(s) generated by obey are resolved,
Resolve the alp attack action if applicable (although the enemy may no longer be in range if you moved it with obey).
Is this correct? Does this also mean that if you are using a movement effect on the obeyed model, you can't charge (because the summoned model is now engaging it), and you can't walk out of the summoned model's engagement?
It'd be wayyyy stronger if you can charge with the controlled model and then drop the summon, but from the ordering of the rules it looks like the summon effect has to place before the charge?
Relevant abilities:
Dreamer summon placement: After an enemy model fails a Wp duel... one model with this ability may unbury in base contact with the enemy model after resolving the current action.
Zoraida obey: Target model takes a non-bonus Action that does not Attach Upgrades or list a model by name, chosen and controlled by this model.
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Is there a consensus on the timing of one of Dreamer's summons landing if Zoraida's obey is the failed willpower effect? At a guess, the timing would be:
Is this correct? Does this also mean that if you are using a movement effect on the obeyed model, you can't charge (because the summoned model is now engaging it), and you can't walk out of the summoned model's engagement?
It'd be wayyyy stronger if you can charge with the controlled model and then drop the summon, but from the ordering of the rules it looks like the summon effect has to place before the charge?
Relevant abilities:
Dreamer summon placement: After an enemy model fails a Wp duel... one model with this ability may unbury in base contact with the enemy model after resolving the current action.
Zoraida obey: Target model takes a non-bonus Action that does not Attach Upgrades or list a model by name, chosen and controlled by this model.
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