hofzinser Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Can you devil's deal when you stone for cards or only when Lucius "uses" the stone for damage prevention, +flips, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durza Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Only when Lucius uses the stones, if you can burn the stone without Lucius on the table, like reflipping initiative then you can't devils deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofzinser Posted February 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Excellent. I wasn't sure if stoning for cards or a reflip of imitative counted as Lucius using the stone (he is on the table). I assume you cannot devils deal if a henchman uses a stone, though, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trikk Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 No, only Lucius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofzinser Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Looked over the rules and his card again. I can't see where stoning for cards or initiative flip counts as the master, not the player, using the stones. What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Probably just some confusion with the English language. Lucius can't use Devil's Deal for drawing cards or reflipping initiative at the start of the turn. Player does that, not the master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corn Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Lucius can use Devils deal when he 1) spends a soulstone for a suit 2) spends a ss for a to attack 3) spends a ss for a to defense and a to damage 4) spends a ss for damage prevention. Those are how he uses them. Using them for anything else or another Henchmen will not trigger Devils Deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakunin Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Corn said: Lucius can use Devils deal when he 1) spends a soulstone for a suit 2) spends a ss for a to attack 3) spends a ss for a to defense and a to damage 4) spends a ss for damage prevention. Those are how he uses them. Using them for anything else or another Henchmen will not trigger Devils Deal 5) If you were silly enough to take the Thalarion Stone upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 25 minutes ago, Bakunin said: 5) If you were silly enough to take the Thalarion Stone upgrade. If I'm not mistaken there is a functional distinction between using and discarding a stone. Could be way off and don't have my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofzinser Posted February 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 This is how read it as well. No Devil's unless Lucius uses the stone for suit, + or damage prevention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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