Theoryfaux: Asami

[Tokapondora]

In what world does Tannen suck?

[PeregrineFalcon]

10 minutes ago, Tokapondora said:

In what world does Tannen suck?

He is not very good in Neverborn, better in 10T. Overall he is very easy to kill. His manipulative is easily dealt with outside of the Cooler bubble.

[D_acolyte]

16 minutes ago, Tokapondora said:

In what world does Tannen suck?

He is a control model that want to be near his enemy and in LOS of them but lacks some survivability which relegates him to utility to most and not into the control area he should be.

[PeregrineFalcon]

2 minutes ago, D_acolyte said:

He is a control model that want to be near his enemy and in LOS of them but lacks some survivability which relegates him to utility to most and not into the control area he should be.

Ding ding. This. ^^^ well said.

[D_acolyte]

My primary is Neverborn, I have gotten some mileage out of Tannen but reducing him to the +2 mask -2 tomb action does the model a disserves and that seems to be how people think of him. He and Graves make a good combo though. Give Tannen mimics blessing and Graves retribution's eye and it gets fun fast but that is also a good chunk of stones to pay on two models to get one of them to work.

[PeregrineFalcon]

2 minutes ago, D_acolyte said:

My primary is Neverborn, I have gotten some mileage out of Tannen but reducing him to the +2 mask -2 tomb action does the model a disserves and that seems to be how people think of him. He and Graves make a good combo though. Give Tannen mimics blessing and Graves retribution's eye and it gets fun fast but that is also a good chunk of stones to pay on two models to get one of them to work.

Agreed. Regardless of the faction I'm playing with Tannen (even though I never hire him into Neverborn), he will always play with Graves. Graves and him do have some really good combos together. I also don't like discounting Tannen's "Bore to Tears" as it is good, but its not a reason to take him. Tannen really only works well in 10T because he can carry things like Smoke Grenades or Low River Monk upgrade. Besides that I see no reason to throw him in.

[D_acolyte]

Bore to Tears is great vs some crews and factions but vs others it does not have the mileage.

[PeregrineFalcon]

Just now, D_acolyte said:

Bore to Tears is great vs some crews and factions but vs others it does not have the mileage.

Yeah, which is why its more of a bonus than a reason to hire him.

[InvokeChaos]

I used Mr. Tannen in my Hannah/Anna core with Asami, but I don't think he's an auto-include.  He can be amazing, or pretty not good. But his cooler and chatty abilities are pretty fantastic. I just find I want his points used elsewhere.

[scarlett fever]

7 hours ago, daniello_s said:

Has anyone used Mr Tannen with Asami? Giving +2 to  flips looks pretty interesting (Hey! Jorogumo on 11+ instead of 13!). I wonder how does it work in practice.

I've tried it a couple of times but found it doesn't suit my play style. 

I love Asami's mobility but this locks her into Tannens orbit. He then needs to activate before her and you need to have the cards that want the boost. He's also very vulnerable to many crews. 

I find Tannens greatest asset for me tends to be cooler. 

[Eclipse]

Tannen's main drawing points for me are his 'Chatty'/'Cooler' combo as well as the debuff to Wk/Ch and blocking SS use on his attack - quite useful with models that cause Wk Duels (Traps, Pathfinders, Ototo's upgrade, Sidir's 'Unload the Magazine'). Thunders has better ways to protect/heal AND especially to position Tannen imo. If you taking him only for the (0) action I'm afraid you are selling the model short