orkdork Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 My understanding is that the Will o' Wisp buffs Zoraida, and I'm dying to know how! Anyone have the book and want to spill the beans? I would love to play Zoraida as my main again, especially since I bought a bunch of Gremlins to go with my Neverborn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durza Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 They have a (1) action that copies a (2) action from another friendly neverborn, no restrictions on copying from masters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four_N_Six Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 So the idea is they can summon her voodoo doll for her. Or use her placement ability, or I think her ability against scheme markers? It's been a while since I've played her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomjoad Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Just now, Four_N_Six said: So the idea is they can summon her voodoo doll for her. Or use her placement ability, or I think her ability against scheme markers? It's been a while since I've played her Yes, the idea is that they can do any of those. The ability to summon multiple voodoo dolls per turn, and to do so without spending any of Zoraida's AP (allowing her to focus on Obey/Bewitch) should radically alter how Z plays and how powerful she is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 I can't explain my glee for these darn glowy butt faeries! (Words I truthfully believed I would never type out....). There are a lot of cool things they can do! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 A model can only be targeted by this once per turn. So one wisp could summon one doll, but if you want any more dolls Zoraida will have to summon them. And you could still only have one doll at a time on the table, because the summon action sacrifices all other friendly totems. Wisps do also buff Z by letting you place a scheme marker when a model fails a Wp duel, say against an Obey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengt Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Could really speed up the Gupps summoning from Spawn Mother. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orkdork Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Suh-weeet! Any restrictions? Range? For example, could they Animal Shape + Summon Voodoo? That would be bonkers! Thanks for the info, all! Super duper excited? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, orkdork said: Suh-weeet! Any restrictions? Range? For example, could they Animal Shape + Summon Voodoo? That would be bonkers! Thanks for the info, all! Super duper excited? Nope. That would require targeting Zoraida twice with the action, which is not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orkdork Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Still, this is amazingly good. What Rarity are they? Say they're Rare 3, that's 6 activations with 3-6 chances at sewn fate that also frees up Zoraida! And the Spawn Mother is suddenly good, since she can lay an egg and the wisp can hatch it on that same turn! How much are these magical Zoraida boosters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomjoad Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 27 minutes ago, Bodiless said: Nope. That would require targeting Zoraida twice with the action, which is not allowed. Each wisp can target Z once, or Z can only be targeted once total, no matter how many wisps you hire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orkdork Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 22 minutes ago, tomjoad said: Each wisp can target Z once, or Z can only be targeted once total, no matter how many wisps you hire? Good question! And how many SS are these little bundles of joy? (P.S. I LOVE the artwork!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, orkdork said: Good question! And how many SS are these little bundles of joy? (P.S. I LOVE the artwork!) More then a Primordial Magic but less then a Waldgeist. I've no idea how specific I am permitted to be with stuff like that since I believe cost is a stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orkdork Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Ah, that makes sense. So they're not particularly cheap. Still, I can imagine 2 being quite worthwhile. Starts to get hard to fit the Spawn Mother and Juju, however. 1 for doll, 1 for eggs. Also gives you more chances for Fickle Winds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orkdork Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Seems like you could do something like: Zoraida, Animal or Tarot, based on schemes Juju, Eternal Fiend, Hexed Among You Spawn Mother Iggy 2 of Silurids/Waldgeists 2 Wisps This gives you 8 models to start, +doll and a gupps per turn. Ultimately, you probably drop Juju for McTavish and something for a Doppel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necroon Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, orkdork said: Ah, that makes sense. So they're not particularly cheap. Still, I can imagine 2 being quite worthwhile. Starts to get hard to fit the Spawn Mother and Juju, however. 1 for doll, 1 for eggs. Also gives you more chances for Fickle Winds. Ah see correction below - sorry haven't had my full prerequisite amount of coffee yet. 9 minutes ago, necroon said: More then a Primordial Magic but less then a Waldgeist. I've no idea how specific I am permitted to be with stuff like that since I believe cost is a stat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 37 minutes ago, tomjoad said: Each wisp can target Z once, or Z can only be targeted once total, no matter how many wisps you hire? A model may only be targeted by the action once per turn. So you get to copy an action from a given model once per turn, no matter how many you hire. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HydroMog Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 i dont have access to the exact wording off hand but couldnt you daisy chain a (2) action using them or does the (2) action have to be printed on the card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 On the card or an upgrade. I think they were pretty careful in making sure you could not in fact spam actions from a single model this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seryjniak Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 can you ping woke up with a hand twice with this ... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 No. It lets you copy a (2) tactical action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomjoad Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Seryjniak said: can you ping woke up with a hand twice with this ... ? It copies 2AP actions, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orkdork Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, Bodiless said: A model may only be targeted by the action once per turn. So you get to copy an action from a given model once per turn, no matter how many you hire. Okay, so they are cheaper than I thought, but can't multi-voodoo. That's good. If they were both cheap AND could multi-voodoo, the activation control would get way out of hand. I actually think this is how I'd rather have it. Avoids the annoying "outactivate and burn you to death" list that would be very, very strong otherwise! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seryjniak Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 So wyrd does it again - nice and balanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 Another bonus for Zoraida lists, or rather Eternal Bad Juju, is that they are cheap and annoying and swampfiends. People will definitely try to kill them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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