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Thanks. I have the Discord for my local game store. I thought it was more for stuff like that than an actual forum. Doesn’t seem to be too user friendly for a forum, though I’ll admit I don’t use it much and am not well versed in its use. Ditto on the having fun. I learned in the past that Malifaux is not a game I enjoy in a tournament setting. Casual is the only way I play it.

Hello everyone. I have been away from the game for about two years. I’m currently reviewing past errata and reviewing the rulebook. I can’t remember if it was gaining grounds season zero or season one that I last played, so still trying to figure out how far back I have to go. is there anything else that I missed while I’ve been away? I’m assuming any gameplay changes have been updated in the most current rulebook that I downloaded? Looking at the Malifaux app, It seems that there are some new versions of existing masters. I noticed that the Lady Justice alternate was heavily modified in the latest errata. Are these new models or just new rules? Do the new master versions replace the old ones, or are both still in play? Also, when does the next errata and gaining grounds come out? I would hate to order the current cards and have them invalidated soon after I get them. If anyone has any advice or tips on getting me back into the game, I would be glad to hear it. Thank you.

Thanks Cats. I’ll read that thread.

What was the gimmick? How was it causing issues? Like I said, I’m out of the loop of all the happenings from the last year or so, just curious as to what was happening to cause the change. I’m sure it was something pretty over the top. I’m starting to play my Dashel crew a bit, and the change caught me off guard the other day (no pun intended), though I usually don’t use my summons for schemes. I generally try to bring in an executioner to tie up enemy models to allow my dogs to go run the schemes.

Yes, that’s how I used Wanted Criminal, with my Parker crew.

I’m just getting back into Malifaux after over a year, so I’m out of the loop. What crew was causing issues to warrant the summoning nerf? Also, I’m pretty disappointed in seeing the complete change to the Outcasts Wanted Criminal upgrade. Thats about the only upgrade I ever used, didn’t seem too over-the-top to me. What was the issue with it?

A Google search for “Plastic injection molding in USA” returns numerous results. The USA certainly has the companies that could produce these products. There is one reason, and one reason only that they outsource to China: Its cheap. That’s it, nothing more. I hope the President stays tough with China, or will continue to see our manufacturing outsourced there. They undercut us every chance they get. Maybe if there are huge tariffs levied on Wyrd products from China, they would get smart and manufacture their products in their own country. For comparison, GW and Warlord are UK companies, and they manufacture in their own country. I respect them for that. I’d gladly pay a few more dollars a box if Wyrd made their products here, and I think everyone else would too. Heck, thousands of people pay sometimes almost $50 USD for one single Warhammer character model, why wouldn’t anyone else spend a bit more for their Malifaux models?

Did not know that. I don’t have the Basse figures, but all the ones I have built have been China.

Again, another of the many reasons for American companies to start manufacturing their products at home instead of China!

So you are saying that you have to win the duel for your defensive trigger to go off?

I was the Parker crew in that game. It was my first time playing that crew. They are pretty tough, the Run and Gun is awesome. I messed up towards the end by charging Doc Mitchell into the Gremlin on the rocket. My goal was nothing more than to tie him up and hold him in place to to be able to drop the scheme markers around him for Detonate Charges, as well as keep Parker alive until I get him over to the enemy scheme markers to cash them in for Soulstones. I did not know that he had ways to move my models and himself out of melee, and that totally screwed up my strategy on that one. I didn’t get the markers, plus it killed Doc and Parker. Lessons learned, but a great game. I always enjoy the games with capopriest.

True, but I need the Emissary portion and can’t find it. Plus, the new Brutal Fate Box is actually cheaper than the old emissary box by itself.

What about the models like Brutal Fate that have yet to hit the distributors?

So if Wyrd is shipping all these faction books, why do none of the distributors or local game stores have them yet? According to my local game store, his distributor website says September release for the books (got a few days left to make that). Also, he has been waiting on the Brutal Fate Box which has been on order since like July with no product in sight.

Well, anyway, if this is truly the case and you must choose, then there should be an errata for the card or at least a clarification from Wyrd. I’m not the only one who has been debating this.

“May” meaning you can choose whether to use your focused + X for that duel or save it for later.

True, and then by the rulebook, when you lower the focus by 1, you get the plus flips. The Sniper ability adds the 10” kicker to the focus condition. According to the rulebook, anytime you lower focus by 1, you get +flips. When the Sniper says lower the focus by 1, then that kicks in the rulebook +flips, then, by the sniper ability, you get the additional 10” range. No where on the card does it say that the 10” range negates what you get from the rulebook says you get by lowering focus by 1. Based on knowledge of other abilities in the game, if they did not want you to get both, then it should read something like this: Sniper: When this model takes a (projectile) Action, it may lower the value of its Focused Condition by 1 to treat the Action as having +10" range instead of receiving a + to the duel. Or: Sniper: When this model takes a (projectile) Action, it may lower the value of its Focused Condition by 1 to treat the Action as having +10" range. This duel does not receive a +. Consistent with other abilities in the game with different models, if they didn’t want you to benefit from both, there would be a rule in the book or notation on the ability forbidding it.

From the Rifleman card: Sniper: When this model takes a (projectile) Action, it may lower the value of its Focused Condition by 1 to treat the Action as having +10" range. From the rulebook: Focused +X: Before performing an opposed duel, this model may lower the value of this Condition by one to receive a + to the duel (and any resulting damage flip this model makes). Without it explicitly saying that you don’t get both benefits, I can see how it can be debated both ways. In my opinion, since it does not discern that you must choose, I would argue that that when he lowers to get the 10”, he also gets the +.

So you are saying you don’t get the benefit of focus when getting the 10” range? Any reference in the rules for that?

So I just played my first Dashel crew for 3e. Got a question: The rifleman can use focus to increase their shooting range by 10”. My opponent seemed to think that when I do that I would lose my +flips when I use the focus. No where on the card does it say that you lose the effects of focus when you do that. All it says is lower the condition by 1. Per the rules, every time you lower focus by 1, you get the benefits of +flips for that duel. Any insights on this, and where this might be referenced if true?

So I played my first game with my new Victoria’s crew tonight. It was lots of fun and learned a lot, including one thing I did majorly wrong! (I didn’t realize at the time that an attack generated by a trigger couldn’t generate triggers. I was bouncing back and forth between the Vic’s with “That one counts as mine” over and over. It did seem pretty over the top. Now I know why! Apologies to my opponent.) I found my above error from the rules, but I did have a couple other I couldn’t find. Hope fully some of you could answer this for me. 1. Do both Vic’s count as one model for the purposes of strategies and schemes (I.e. Assasinate, deliver a message)? Or is one Vic designated a leader, and the other just an extra Master? 2. The Ronin’s On the Move ability states: “At the start of this model’s activation, it may move up to 3”, ignoring other models.” We had a question over whether this ability would trigger a disengage strike when it was engaged and left melee. My best guess is that it doesn’t, because you are not performing a walk action (which isn’t allowed), nor are you doing the disengage action. Plus, the ability says you may move 3”, not do your Mv. Last, the ability also says ignore enemy models, so that would pretty much negate the model engaging you anyway. Based on all those reasons, I would assume I would be able to move 3” away out of melee like a push, but without the straight line restriction since it says “move” and not “push”, plus not generate a disengage strike. Does any one have any insight on this?

That’s one of the stores I was referring to. Not to change topic, but on a side note: T-mod- You are in UK? I know quite a few folks on here are. I might be traveling to London on business in the future. I think the company puts us in a hotel near South Kensington. Are there any places there I could meet up and maybe play a game with you fine lads when the time comes?

That’s really strange, because the two largest online USA Malifaux retailers got zero, and none of the local stores got any either. There has also been no copies available on eBay, and I check every day. So one random local game store getting one is strange. You would think that the top retailers would get product before low volume sellers.

It has never seen stock in USA.

Not all July releases reached the retailers. The Brutal Fate kit, which was a July release, still has not made it to 2 of the biggest online Malifaux retailers. They have yet to receive any at all.