Stupid Bob

Definitely hoping to attend...just need to work out the Wife Points!

Had a great time at the BBQ today! Thanks to everyone for lots of fun!

Had a great time! Dreamer vs Brew was the most intense Malifaux game I've played! Thanks for an awesome time!

Still waiting for details on the TC events so I can plan the trip. Is there any news?

I plan to attend. Actually, sadly, I spoke too soon. I told the boss and she pointed out that I've already committed to going to her company's Christmas party with her. Stupid real life

There are lots of things in the game that tell you to resolve them after an Action, where the situation is not necessarily caused by an Action. This in no way implies that the cause must be an action. It simply clarifies that if it were caused by an action, it is resolved after completing the action. In the above, the cause of the WP duel is the Smother ability. Smother causes a WP duel or target gains slow. When the WP duel is failed, the target gains slow. Then any other abilities that happen based on failing a WP duel or something gaining Slow would happen. Misery does not require an action, it only requires a failed WP duel. I think you guys are reading way to much in to things. I strongly recommend you read this article by Justin about the language or rules: http://justindrawingdead.com/?p=286 I am very much of the opinion that the language "after resolving the current Action" is a short 'fit it on the card' way of saying "after resolving whatever happened to cause this to happen in the first place". There are several situations in the game where that language is used but the situation may not happen due to an action.

I think the language "after resolving the current Action" is used to imply (brevity is key!) "after the current action or ability or whatever made this happen is resolved" and is done to keep the order of operations clear (specifically to prevent actions/abilities interrupting other actions/abilities) I think the sequence of events would be: -Model Activates -Smother requires a WP test -WP test is failed & Model gains Slow. This resolves the Smother ability -Two abilities then happen simultaneously (Misery & Feed On Dreams), controlling player then chooses order. -Misery would be chosen to happen first, doing 1 Wd -Feed On Dreams would then happen, doing 1 Wd and killing the model -Never Wake Up then happens

So I had an idea just now, which is a scary thing as I'm on no sleep for a week and high on Mt. Dew, Snickers, Coffee, and whatever magical preservatives they put in pre-packaged lunch-meat sandwiches... but here goes: I'll post a deploy/strat/scheme & opponent faction, and we'll all discuss what crews we'd take and likely schemes! Here's the first one, in prep for a vassal game tonight: Schemey stuff seems to be the way to go, but MTS gives me pause. I've used Zoraida only twice, so am inclined towards something with her. It may not be completely optimal, particularly with MTS out there, but this is one idea: I'd take Protect Territory and Plant Evidence, reveal both. Get Waldgeists up on two of the Squats, drop Schemes, and hang out. Juju I'd drive down their throat and make them deal with him as he tries to slow/paralyze all he can. Silurid schemes around (primarily late game). Iggy and Nurse work with Voodoo Doll to take out key models. Doppleganger is problem-solver to deal with problems, either trying to shut down enemy scheme runners or supporting Silurid or if nothing else letting me cheat init Or my other idea, and this is more likely what I'll go with as I'm far more familiar and comfortable, is Dreamer... I'd do the same schemes, revealed Protect Territory and revealed Plant Evidence (or maybe Breakthrough, depends on terrain). I'd head towards one flank's Squats, drop Schemes and Claim and throw down webs, making getting the Teddy Bears out of there tricky, Summoning would focus on non-Minions...Coppelius to run schemes, Lelu & Lilitu to hunt enemy scheme runners, and replacing Sacrificed Daydreams. Daydreams would have to be used non-aggressively, as they're the only things here that are peon/minion for Make Them Suffer. Doppleganger is again the problem solver, with some great abilities to Mimic (Hug, Exhale Terror, Lead Nightmare) or just be a hard-to-kill Protect Territory model. So, what crews would you take (given your model collection)?

The 50ss GG is one day? How many rounds? How long are the rounds? What's on day two?

Agree, I have similar issue. I'm trying to leverage the fact that I know he'll be trying to kill WW...if he's focusing on WW I'd like to think I can punish him for that. I've not been successful, but I'm trying

Correct: (1) What Lackeys Are For: Place a Scheme Marker in base contact with this model. Then, place this model into base contact with target friendly model within 10", and place the target in base contact with the Scheme Marker which this Action placed. This Action may only be taken once per Turn.

Or just do both

Crew and Masters are always situational dependent on the Strat/Scheme pool. (sorry if that sounds pedantic). While the Obey is a bit similar to Lcuius' commands, to me the key difference is that the Obey works on Enemy too, and doesn't require the target to be a Minion. I recently bought both, have tried both, and loved them both and can see both of them having a place in my arsenal

It's getting maybe off topic of OP, but summoning Teddy with Handbag for me is the Gravy, not the meat. As implied above, throw a bunch of things at the enemy (maybe even some purchased Teddies!), have them kill and be killed by the enemy. Things are thinned out, enemy beatsticks are gone or weakened, Widow swoops in and pops out a brand new fresh unwounded Teddy (note that when Dreamer summons, he's at 1Wd, not when Widow summons...note also that Widow does not need a very high card, nor extra models involved). A key mid/late game Teddy summon can be utterly decisive, uses resources you've already got anyway (corpse markers from dead enemy; scrap markers from dead enemy and stitched and teddy and dolls etc), Note also that this leaves Dreamer free to do other things, like remove his slow and push him to beat stuff 3 times...or some more stitched, or whatever! In other words, I take Widow anyway for the other things she does, spending 2ss for her to have the ability to make a Teddy is worth it to me, and is far less an investment than Tannen and hoping to get one of those two cards that works. (That being said, it sure if fun when Tannen works! )

One might make an argument that card's values are clamped at a minimum of 1 and a maximum of 13 based on the rule that defines cards. An Ace with a -2 does not go below 1, as 1 is the minimum value. (Note that Jokers have a seperate rule to define their value). This would, of course, prevent Teddy summoning as well. I am not in favor of this interpretation, but that is the only rule I see that describes values of cards. (And frankly, I'm not in favor of that interpretation because I LOVE to summon some Teddy cuddling!!) <edit> Beating this up some more, the rules for Values of Cards say: The only rules for Modifiers specify modifiers to a Stat or a Duel Total: Then a bit more, under the Math callout box: While none of the above really directly apply (would be great if this were covered in errata/faq), this is just stuff that I found almost kinda-sorta applied: food for thought, if you will.

Just keeping this on the radar and letting yall know that many of us are waiting to see a more definitive schedule so we can plan our travel! Looking forward to another Templecon!!

Despite ComicCon stealing so many potential local players, this event was a great success! We had 12 participants, most of which drove up from the DC area. Thanks to all that came for making the journey and making the event a wonderful time! Here's the breakdown from Lucius: Rank Player Name Faction TPS Diff VPs 1 Mike Brandt Gremlins 13 19 45 2 Rhett Austin Outcasts 12 19 38 3 Tony Kopach Arcanists 10 12 47 4 Brendan G Arcanists 9 12 39 5 Mark Ferek Neverborn 9 2 29 6 Owen Beste Outcasts 7 -3 28 7 Nick Thomas Guild 6 6 26 8 Matt Stanley Resurrectionists 6 -6 28 9 Mike Shaefer Arcanists 6 -7 27 10 James Yohe Resurrectionists 6 -16 15 11 Bridgette Reilly Guild 3 -22 15 12 Shelley Barker Outcasts 1 -16 23 Round-by-Round Battle For Salvation Round Table Player 1 Faction TPS Diff VPs Player 2 Faction TPS Diff VPs 1 1 Brendan G Arcanists 0 -1 6 Rhett Austin Outcasts 3 1 7 1 2 Nick Thomas Guild 0 -5 2 Matt Stanley Resurrectionists 3 5 7 1 3 Owen Beste Outcasts 0 -2 5 Mark Ferek Neverborn 3 2 7 1 4 Shelley Barker Outcasts 0 -2 5 Bridgette Reilly Guild 3 2 7 1 5 Mike Brandt Gremlins 3 9 10 James Yohe Resurrectionists 0 -9 1 1 6 Mike Shaefer Arcanists 0 -5 4 Tony Kopach Arcanists 3 5 9 2 1 Owen Beste Outcasts 3 4 8 Mike Shaefer Arcanists 0 -4 4 2 2 Rhett Austin Outcasts 3 8 10 Bridgette Reilly Guild 0 -8 2 2 3 Matt Stanley Resurrectionists 3 5 9 Mark Ferek Neverborn 0 -5 4 2 4 Brendan G Arcanists 3 6 10 Shelley Barker Outcasts 0 -6 4 2 5 Nick Thomas Guild 0 -1 4 James Yohe Resurrectionists 3 1 5 2 6 Mike Brandt Gremlins 3 1 10 Tony Kopach Arcanists 0 -1 9 3 1 Mike Brandt Gremlins 3 7 10 Matt Stanley Resurrectionists 0 -7 3 3 2 James Yohe Resurrectionists 3 3 6 Bridgette Reilly Guild 0 -3 3 3 3 Tony Kopach Arcanists 3 4 9 Brendan G Arcanists 0 -4 5 3 4 Rhett Austin Outcasts 3 7 10 Owen Beste Outcasts 0 -7 3 3 5 Mark Ferek Neverborn 0 -10 0 Nick Thomas Guild 3 10 10 3 6 Shelley Barker Outcasts 0 -2 4 Mike Shaefer Arcanists 3 2 6 4 1 Tony Kopach Arcanists 3 4 10 Matt Stanley Resurrectionists 0 -4 6 4 2 Mike Brandt Gremlins 3 2 5 Rhett Austin Outcasts 0 -2 3 4 3 James Yohe Resurrectionists 0 -2 3 Owen Beste Outcasts 3 2 5 4 4 Brendan G Arcanists 3 6 8 Nick Thomas Guild 0 -6 2 4 5 Mark Ferek Neverborn 3 6 9 Shelley Barker Outcasts 0 -6 3 4 6 Mike Shaefer Arcanists 3 5 8 Bridgette Reilly Guild 0 -5 3 5 1 Mike Shaefer Arcanists 0 -5 5 Brendan G Arcanists 3 5 10 5 2 James Yohe Resurrectionists 0 -9 0 Mark Ferek Neverborn 3 9 9 5 3 Nick Thomas Guild 3 8 8 Bridgette Reilly Guild 0 -8 0 5 4 Mike Brandt Gremlins 1 0 10 Tony Kopach Arcanists 1 0 10 5 5 Matt Stanley Resurrectionists 0 -5 3 Rhett Austin Outcasts 3 5 8 5 6 Shelley Barker Outcasts 1 0 7 Owen Beste Outcasts 1 0 7 Final Results: Master of Malifaux (highest Tournament Points): Mike Brandt Champion of Fate (average Appearance & TP): Tony Kopach Zoraida's Apprentice (Appearance): Mike Schaefer Tyrant of Malifaux (highest Victory Points): Brendan Gallagher Orlando Bloom (Last Place) Shelley Barker Congratulations to all! I hope all you players had as much fun as I did! I'm already excited for next year!!

Question from tourney today: Does Accomplice require LOS? My ruling: It is not a pulse or aura, and does not require a target, so no, it does not require LOS. What do you think?

Question asked at tournament today: If Ashes & Dust is surrounded by enemy models and killed, will the Core be able to be placed after the A&D model is removed, or is it unable to be placed? My ruling: Core must be placed in BTB with A&D before it is removed...since it is not possible to do that, IAW Summon rules it can not be placed. What do others think?

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As Written, I think it's your first interpretation... The model attacked and did damage, therefore draws a card. There is no modifier to allow drawing multiple cards for damaging multiple models from one attack action, it's simply Yes or No...did it damage or didn't it.

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Also for preventing Interacts...stand on the Scheme and even models that can Interact while Engaged can't Target the marker.

That rule says "when it cannot take any more actions". You don't need AP to do (0) Actions, so a model's Activation does not 'auto-end' because it's used it's last AP. Moreover, a model may have abilities that are not actions that happen during its activation (off the top of my head, Jacob's 52 Pickup; Abomination's Caustic Aura). I think that in your example you're in Teddy's activation...he resolves the Gobble You Up action, resolves the Smell Fear attack, then ends his activation.

I've not tried them myself (waiting for plastic models!), but Gupps seems a reasonable choice for some schemes. Not as outright fast as the Tots, but Leaping on that Ace of Masks frees them up to do double schemes, or deliver message, or whatever naughty thing you can find for them to do!