Lupercal

You really chose the worst time to ask this question. The free PDFs for all the wave 2 stuff were literally taken down less than a week ago because of the release of the Wave 2 book and Arsenal decks at gencon in about a week. I would PM CrouchingMoose or myself (or many others on the forum that have volunteered in other threads) for a copy of the PDF files, and as for the Wave 2 book and Arsenal decks, they will definitely be available at your FLGS some time in the next several months. We have been told that all the models being sold at gencon will be in stores between October and January, I have a feeling the Wave 2 book and Arsenal decks will not take that long after gencon is over to make their way into your FLGS.

We have not yet been told how the Avatar rules will be released. But they were released in a third book last edition so take that for what you will. I agree it would be a sparse book though, and nobody really knows what they plan to do.

I think they are called Earth, Heavens, and Jigoku? In any case they are +3 Wd, +2Wk+1Cg, and take no damage during your activation.

The only problem (well ok one of the problems) I can see with that is that you would have to carry around at least one of every model in the game. I suppose you could just have your butlers carry it for you.

If anyone wants to see the pics they are on the home page in the Gencon Releases article.

Ooooh, thats good.

Yes everything is for sale online. The nightmare will be 60 dollars and you will get a Miss included if your order is over 100.

Teddy with On Dreaming Wings probably. Smacking people around and moving them would be fun.

It says "This model may discard a Limited Upgrade it has attached to attach the chosen Upgrade." This seems pretty cut and dry to me. If you want to attach the upgrade you have chosen and possibly discarded in the previous line, you must discard a Limited Upgrade you already have on you. This means you would need to start with one on. Edit for clarity- I understand you are confused by the word MAY, but it says "discard a Limited Upgrade TO attach the chosen Upgrade.", leading me to believe you must discard a Limited Upgrade to attach a new one.

It has been said it is ousting the nightmare chompy as the new largest mini in the range so I would imagine it is bigger than Hoff. Incedentally I wonder what nightmare chompy and avatar hoff look like next to one another. Regardless of which one is bigger of them, we have been told the Whiskey is supposedly the new biggest model.

2 crew boxes is 100$, enough for the Miss. I definitely would avoid any books if you are getting it shipped outside the US.

Keep in mind the adding the book will increase your shipping cost by quite a bit. So maybe hold off on the book for now.

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Awesome! Skin towel!

I agree the back of the old model is the best bit and I love that model because of it. I think I will like the new plastic much better than the old if they made the back look really good with some decent plastic detail. I hope it isnt changed too much though as that feeling of movement you describe is really what makes Doppel for me.

I think if anything it could include Brewie and that would only be if they had him almost ready to go but didn't want to include him in the Wyrd Chronicles in case they couldn't have him ready for gencon in time. As much as I would love a Shenlong boxed set, I don't think it is very likely at all now that we have been told that is all the crew boxes they are selling. His art only really came out pretty recently compared to a lot of the art for boxes that aren't out. But yeah if either Shenlong or Brewmaster made an appearance I would be much happier.

I think Nightmare Teddy looks like a nightmare model should. Very twisted and styalized. I like Miss Ery and even old metal teddy better than new plastic silly tongue teddy, but to each his own

I agree I own 2 and it is definitely one of my favorite models. If you don't mind paying the cost though there are plenty for sale online is all I was saying. As for care bear themes I can see myself doing it but not with all 5 of my teddies, with Miss Ery I will ONLY have the 5! (gasp) At least one has to look like a real teddy bear come to life for revenge. He will have your head for that time you let the dog have its way with him, and all the times spent in the spinning water chamber of torture!(washing machine)

What kind of change are you expecting in her back? I dont expect it will be very different.

I don't think it is too far fetched to expect them, I seem to remember them being ready to go and just being held back so they could be packaged with their upgrade cards from the start or something like that?

Yeah he means the 2 configurations of Nightmare Teddy, the grinning/frowning face and arm with/without fat boy. They are actually pretty easy to get, lots on ebay, if you dont mind selling your soul for one.

You can always sculpt boobs on your Teddy Or maybe a bow? Paint her pink?

I certainly hope I am wrong and he is 50-60

Yeah $100 is really easy to hit if you want books and decks in addition to models. Or if you want the nightmare Whiskey Golem he will probably cost 80+ dollars himself.

Miss Ery the alt Teddy will most likely be free with orders of $100 or more, yes. By most likely I mean, I don't think it has been officially announced, but this is how they have done almost every other Miss in the past so it is safe to assume they will do so again. Edit - The only Nightmare model is the Whiskey Golem.