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I don't think it's terrifying, I think it's intimidating. subtle difference... A rolling tank is intimidating, a dimly lit torture chamber is terrifying... etc.

meh biblical is more fun, more well known, uses the word "apocalypse," and slightly offensive to some very religious people... I'm for that.

Yeah, the plastic Levi cant come soon enough for me. Honestly I really hate that green haired crippled looking mini they got for him now, but his rules rule. I read a bunch of levi battle reports and it just cracks me up how often an opponent is sure the game is over only to have levi or A&D or the SPAs do something totally unexpected and pull the victory away, also it seems like for a game where winning is mostly accomplished by completing scenarios and schemes Levi is still the OP caster master that focuses on "kill them all and they cant win with schemes" and he's really good at it. Read a bat rep where the player had teddy, killjoy (and I think Bete?) and I thought, "jesus... that's all the biggest beatsticks in the game, just run away, you got no chance unless you run!" cracks me up just thinking about it.

I was in the same boat a week or so ago, and was really befuddled on what I should go for.. Finally I settled on Ramos because everything seems easy... tactics are straight forward (either get a crap ton of spiders and summon like mad, or get some beatstick elites and summon like mad) models looked very easy to paint (not a lot of wild paint schemes or too much detail, and a lot of repetitive models so painting seems more easy than any other master) I figure Ramos will get me into the game, and sharpen up some badly neglected painting skills (haven't painted for like 12 years), then once I feel confident in rules and painting, I plan on taking on a levi or gremlins crew after Gen-con (much more intricate tactics, many many more options... levi is insane with options... ) I really don't select out of fluff, (though the green ones seem pretty funny in both fluff and rules) I admit I'm a bit of an ego manic, I greatly prefer winning and basking in my infinite awesome over losing. Ramos seems to have a fairly proven track record with a rinse repeat sort of game play... perfect for a starting player, nothing too tricky or requiring too much set up or pre-planing (throw a Ramos crew together and it should work with only a smidgen of considering the enemy master's play style ), a lot of the other masters with burning army list/schemes, hard to grasp model rules, very specific ways for the model to survive long enough to afford the SS cost and what not seem like far reaching tactics that would take a while to master. Against experienced opponents that translates to a lot of losses and not much awesome basking. so I'd strongly suggest (from one new player to another,) find a first crew that you think you can have success with. Forget the look of the crew, the fluff, and pretty much everything else and just select something following K.I.S.S. that you think you can paint fairly easily, learn fast and start winning with soon. you'll be much less likely to have fun and keep playing if you select a really hard to paint crew that takes forever to get finished, then takes a lot of losses and facepalming before you have an even chance of winning with.

Read a game where Levi avatar and the 4 riders took on.... somebody, sounded fun but the riders seemed a bit squishy for the points...

Ok so looked up the art, very nice, does not really look like a green haired molester anymore... Gen Con 79 days and counting....

K so I got a Ramos crew box and a bunch of spiders but I'm really just playin em to get a feel for the game and get my painting skills up before taking on a Levi force. Unfortunately I really don't want to get into Levi till the new plastics come out, any word yet on when that might happen, or how long would ya guess (2015?) jus tryin to plan out my paychecks...

Generally I find it offensive when anyone tells me "the way you think is bad and wrong, let me tell you how you should think" The only rule I think really needs to be enforced is "don't be a jerk" other than that mods should keep that close/ban hammer in its holster.

I want to see more write ups like this! GREAT STUFF! I'm still trying to figure out what crew I want to get into, this list lays out exactly what each model is for, strengths and weaknesses, general strategies, play style, even counters helps to make my decision much more easy and now I think I'm a few steps closer to actually laying down some duckets and actually get around to painting and playing. Seriously a post like this should be in the Malifaux gazette.

Ok so new player here, still trying to figure out what crew I want to play... reading 8 pages of this I would summarize it as... M Rider- model may be slightly more effective than spending points/stones on other models because of the number of things it can do (swiss army knife of models) but it must be carefully protected for a few rounds where it might not be very high scoring/effective, and if your opponent weakens it or kills it quickly, (and there are plenty of things that can counter this model) it wont be worth the cost you paid for it. yup sounds like a strategy game to me. I don't remember who it was that was saying it, but before the game he thinks about his opponent and what he might have to counter before he builds his crew... yeah that's pretty much any miniatures game, and includes every miniature/power/ability in the game. Is this model some how so OP that nothing can counter it? I'm new but so far nothing said in these last 8 pages has in any way convinced me this model is OP. Its effective sure, but it can be countered (and apparently fairly easily with a little forethought), but what model isn't that true of? Should a game company really come out with a big expensive model that's totally mundane, excels in no areas, and generally has no advantages over any other model in just about every situation? Game balance is important, but if every model is entirely balanced in every situation there is no strategy.

Thanks for the responses all, I do see a GW/PP backlash going on where I am... small town nowheresville... a buddy and me are deciding to push for malifaux at our LGS but its very slow going and everyone interested is waiting for plastics...

got a friend with some unpainted Khador he may wanna get rid of for the grems PM me if your interested.

I'm just getting into Malifaux, plan on investing some funds on new plastics... but I'm watching like 100 new kickstarters for mini games getting funding, hitting the presses etc. when I look around the net for malifaux battle reports 80% of them are like from 2012. Even In this forum I see a lot of posts that talk about Malifaux in the past tense. Seeing some of the release schedule problems with Wyrd makes me really question if I want to drop half a month's paycheck on stuff for a game that is giving indications it may not be around long. Please convince me that I'm total wrong in these fears, and my hesitation to spend hard earned money is unfounded...

I'm kind of in the same boat but I didnt play 1.5 just starting out and all the choices can seem overwhelming. I eventually decided on Gremlins, mostly because with enough minatures that fraction seems like it can do everything well.. want shooty, get the gun line running and done, want summoning (and sick activation pwonwership) done, want biggins whalloping peps (battle pigs attack!) want tricky gimics, dont think it gets more tricky than a Som'er piglet sooey swarm or a bacon bombing pigapult, want one single uber fig to rule the board, glowy Killjoy or Gracie please. goofy fun, legit competitive capibilities, and more than anything the ability to vary playing styles (heck I'll likely get board with one play style anyways, even if it is successful) if cost was a concern though.... I think I would just go with the frekorps/vics combo as they seem to be able to do fairly well without needing to greatly alter a set army list.

"Defensive piglets" (facepalm) Teenage Mutant Ninja Piglets! "PORKER POWER!!!" “We'll be Friends Forever, won't we, Pooh?' asked Piglet. Even longer,' Pooh answered.” A.A. Milne

Havent played a single game yet... but would "student of conflict" be a good addition to the glowy killjoy list? I'd really like a fast pigapult there rather than one more standard grem.

Hi all Just started getting into Malifaux, a buddy of mine works at a game store and were sort of spear heading getting some tournies going. He just spent about 600 bucks on his like 5 armies, I plan on spending about half that much on getting just about everything green and gremliny. I'm still a bit intimidated by all the special rules but assume this will pass after 10 or so games... side note, I'm currently running a Malifaux RPG using savage worlds/deadlands rules.