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to where I agree with you osoi on 90% of occasions people will play with lists that arent "fluff friendly" many do, simply because it works, yes lists like "filth" that play Nekima with Pandora make little sense flavor wise they are quite effective, but most players I've observed will for the most part play crews that operate with fluff because the game rewards it. "Alp Bombs" for instance are both fluff friendly and fierce, secondly I feel that most Lady Justice crews will happily run death marshalls, etc. Yes yes I do agree, I dont often run juju with big Z, though many would happily run fluff friendly crews.

Pandora is good, Lilith is a personal favorite to play, love her a lot, Mc'Mourning and Seamus are really great too, and the dreamer is a boss, there are my suggestions.

I can agree with the idea that the Neverborn always seen to have an edge, but when I started the thread i said that this is assuming you are using the basic list for that Master, assume Marcus is using Myranda and beasts, and that Lilith is using Nephs. so on and so forth, I think many would agree with me on my decision to place Marcus where he is, I like the character in the book I like his whole flavor, it just seems his game play is easily out shined. True, Kaeris may be good, but I'm just talking master to master right now. I do thank you for your input though, If more come in and suggest Marcus needs to be moved up I will do so, this is just how I have observed him in an average game.

I find myself agreeing with your post and the post of others and have made the proper changes : ) thanks alot

Yep like a DnD tier discussion, true these usually end poorly but I always learn something from them. : ) so ill try to keep it chill in here as best i can.

I think a lot of what we chose are similar and in many ways different as well, I feel that Som'er at tier 5 is a gross mis-understanding of the master as a whole, a master with the ability to heal without a spell, Multiply his crew, as well as force an opponent to discard their entire hand without so much as a resist flip is quite the foe to face, not to mention he out-activates almost any master out there. In my humble opinion I feel the Arcanists are sadly the most under powered faction, which is sad I like their fluff, they just dont seem to shine.

To me this is just on a general Crew versus Crew scenario, Ive played both with and against most of the crews, I've observed every crew in action on a number of occasions, I feel this is where the crews rest on an average scrap match up.

Possibly old Nicodem has a lot of little tricks that I feel put him just above average, his ability to summon almost any undead makes him powerfully utilitarian. true his melee weapon is really weak, but i dont feel he needs one, why would you say he belongs in three? I do agree he is on the cusp.

No lie here, their so good its dumb

Let me first say this is in no way me bashing or complaining about balance issues in the game itself, I will still claim that Malifaux is one of the more balanced miniature games out there. But on the same token I do feel from my personal Experiences that some masters just seem to, well outclass others in game play. I dont know if tiers have truly been discussed in detail on the forums and I would like to hear feedback from other players on what they feel are more and less powerful masters. For the purposes of this discussion I will be rating each master with the crew they are obviously meant to be played with (Som'er and Gemlins, Hamelin and rats, Ramos and steampunk arachnids, and the like) I will write out a five tier system: Tier 1: Cream of the crop some of the strongest crews in the game, some would say too strong, winning most games and just overall unfair in a plethora of ways. Tier 2: Strong masters just above average, capable of amazing things just, not all the time. Tier 3: Perfectly balanced masters, not weak and not overwhelming. Tier 4: Masters that seem to just need a bit of a push, just shy of a full deck. Tier 5: Underwhelming, these masters arent just a few cards shy of a full deck but they seem to be missing a full suit or two. Tier 1: Hamelin the Plagued, Perdita, The Dreamer Tier 2:Zoraida, Leveticus, Pandora, Mc'Mourning, Som'er Teeth Jones, Colette, Tier 3: The Victorias, Lilith, Nicodem, Kirai, Seamus, Ramos, Hoffman, Lady Justice, Sonia Criid, Tier 4: Rasputina, Tier 5: Marcus, So tell me what you think, I will revise my list if I see proof to your persuasions. As always much love -T

Great work man loving it.

Correct Ki is the Japanese equivalent to the Chinese Chi or Qi, Same deal : )

Ahhh so your the painty type, my fiance is the same, love her to death. I feel bad but i make her paint all my favorite models <3 . Well one crew that is fun to paint is the dreamer. You might like them too.

Indeed, the crew looks like it would be a solid one, im trying to keep with the Surilid theme with my big Z. I run the Spawnmother, avatar, a few surilids and a gup or two. but then again i like flavor accuracy. Same reason i dont use candy or kade with Hamelin aww whatever lol. :zoraida

Yea, Hamelin is an awesome master he is a truly fantastic leader to a slaughterhouse of a crew, there are few crews that can stand up to him, ya picked a wicked first master it will ruin your foes :firedevil . I played a brawl the other day with just Hamelin vs. Colette and Hoffman, not even fair. :fing02: So keep it up buy more rats and prepare to have your foes weep.

I think one should be named Iggy. Its cute.

Ok, so im loving these models, you need no tips whatsoever, as far as im concerned atleast. You did great work here, the colors all tie together, and unify the models. you did wonderful work. : )

my fiance is the painter in my little group of friends, she decided to repaint my Lilith, she had done a wonderful job, she handed it to me to matte coat it and i dropped it and chipped it all up, there is love here man.

this is fan-freaking-tastic! loving it.

Great work Smigs, liking her better without the hat honestly, have you taken a look at her alternate from book 3?

about how many people do you have show up to these events?

Another fun fact, if you break her name up into its parts Ki, and Rai you get something interesting. Ki means literally spirit or energy, and Rai is lightning. enjoy.

Great work man.

very well done beautiful models.

First Of all I am writing this from my phone so I do apologize For any spelling or punctuation errors. For Those of you who may know me I have not been able to run events as of recent. I do really apologize for that. More Space has been opened up in my schedule and at the store where I host events, so I was wondering to all of you in arizona who is still interested in me running more malifaux tournaments. I am more than willing so please if you want me to run tournaments please post here and ill start for preparing for them