teramaze Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 "Adaptive Mind [Ca]: When this model uses this Stat, it can add either of the stat's suits to the total, but not both." From the Sonnia Avatar card The Question is when does this done? Before the casting Flip is made or after the casting flip is made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 13th Warrior Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 As I understand it, it's done after, because it says it adds it to the total. Cheers Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 teramaze Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 it seems to me that it should work the other way where i chooses first seeing is you had just one suit with your Ca you have it before the flip is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 dgraz Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 It's after. That's the real bonus of having it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Ausplosions Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Or course it's after, otherwise it makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 teramaze Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Why does it not make if you had to choose the suit first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Poltron Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Let's say you need a Tome + Ram for a spell, and you get to choose between those 2 suits with Adaptive. You flip a high Mask on your cast, use a soulstone to hope for one or the other suit and lucky you, you flip a Ram. You can now choose to add Tome to the total so that your casting is a success. If you chose Ram first in this example, you would have failed the cast since you needed a Tome after the flips/Cheat/SS. Its supposed to help you cast, not hinder you in your choice. Hope it helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 teramaze Posted June 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 It fine i will play it picking after the flip i just wish there was more logic reasoning of why it works that way so i can better understand the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kadeton Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 It works that way because the ability is intended to make things easier to cast. It represents the caster being very skilled - thus, the implementation is not the unrefined crapshoot of choosing before you flip, but the ability to have whatever suit is necessary for success. You'll also notice that casters who have this ability generally have spells with high CC and multiple suit requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Mach_5 Posted June 7, 2012 Report Share Posted June 7, 2012 "Adaptive Mind [Ca]: When this model uses this Stat, it can add either of the stat's suits to the total, but not both." Casting Sequence: A. Caster Flips for Starting Duel Total. The caster flips one Fate Card...... Caster's Starting Casting Duel total = Fate Card's value and suit + Ca value and any suits + applicable modifiers ... B. Caster Changes Starting Total or Passes.... Cheat Fate / Use soulstones ... C. Caster Determines Final Duel Total Final Duel total = Fate Card value and suit (original or replacement from Cheating Fate) + stat value and any suits + applicable modifiers + value and suit of any Fate Card from Using Soulstones. The model is using this stat both when determining the Starting Duel Total (after the flip) and also when determining the Final Duel Total (after cheating/soulstones). So, you flip a card and can either keep it and pick a suit for your stat, or cheat/soulstone first and then pick a suit for your stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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"Adaptive Mind [Ca]: When this model uses this Stat, it can add either of the stat's suits to the total, but not both."
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The Question is when does this done? Before the casting Flip is made or after the casting flip is made?
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