Ulfast Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 I´m a pretty new player and my gaming group has just started Malifaux. And my question is why to play Hoffman? I see nothing special about him and everything he can do it seems Ramos can make cooler. So why play Hoffman? Please help me to understand hid greatness, because I hope that all masters have something going for them. what make him unique? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastDinosaur Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Not sure how to answer this one.. Ramos and Hoffman doesn't play anything alike aside from having somewhat of an overlap between their minion pools. Hoffman can be carried around by constructs buffing them in various ways (more attacks, Reactivate, healing, immunity to blasts, auras and pulses, etc.) and receives bonusses for doing so himself (saves AP on not having to Walk,Fast,higher Ca, healing, armor,assimilate,higher Dg pulse,...). Or he can go crazy with assimilate shenanigans if taken with the right pool of units.. Ramos can't really do any of those, Ramos can create little spiders/ghostly bombs, he can shoot lightning and he can blow his spiders up. Unless you go avatar with him that's really about it. His avatar is imo one of the most potent though and it can reliably be manifested early aswell. Most certainly a change of pace for the somewhat dull Ramos just described). He gets quite efficient in combat, very mobile, mass obey, can summon even bigger spiders, etc. Hoffmans avatar on the other hand loses just about everything described about him and is turned in to a mediocre model at best, I personally wouldn't bother fielding him. Went a bit off a tangent there, but yeah.. Hoffman and Ramos aren't really similar at all. Hoffman like all Book2 Masters relies heavily on synergy with his crew, whereas Ramos doesn't really at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Reactivate plus Peacekeeper equals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hoffman, Arachnid Swarm and a Drill Sergeant is a fun combination.. I think you can't ignore Hoffman with a SoulStone Miner, that's where he gets silly powerful... Hoffman can go many ways, he really is dependent on his crew, where looking at Ramos I would never take him without his Avatar and a toolkit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicpockets Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Hoffman, Arachnid Swarm and a Drill Sergeant is a fun combination.. Or a Mechanical Rider for Tap Power which ignores Slow because of the Drill Sergent. Mega fast Hoffman then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 The Drill Sergeant is only there for the free Tap Power and extra attack flip for whatever he is linked too... He can also cast Open Circuit himself which is always a fun surprise for your opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicpockets Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 The Drill Sergeant is only there for the free Tap Power and extra attack flip for whatever he is linked too... He can also cast Open Circuit himself which is always a fun surprise for your opponent. No, the Drill Sergent also avoids your SPAs getting slow when they swarm/split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron|Roboto Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 No, the Drill Sergent also avoids your SPAs getting slow when they swarm/split I've got that trick under copyright law, so you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimeLapse Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Let's do a quick pros and cons for both masters Ramos pros he can make models he has Arching screen "one of his best spells" He can take rusty allace and gain card drawing awesomeness he can use 2 actions to get a scrap counter His avartar is easy to get and worth wile to use Moblie took kit Counterspell Can bring Lazarus Cons untill he avatars he is slow sitting in one cornor of the table doing nothing. he has limited ablities, compaired to hoffman To get reactivate he has to use stoke a vary hard spell to get off Hoffman has great AoE attack that can deliver massive damage Machine puppet is an amazing ablitity Assimilate is awesome. he can give reactivate to awesome models like a peacekeeper is so vary fast when with fast models is better then ramos at objective grabbing Ryle Machanical attendent, its a mini ryle that is significant and a scavenger. It is only 3ss and has 5 health with amour. Cons he cannot make things his avatar is not that good once he dies you other models like wardens have little change of being effective has to pay 1 extrea to bring arcane constucts There are alot more pro and cons but these are some basics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsComedian Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Yeah, as others have said they are very different masters/playstyles. Aside from the fact they both love constructs and share some minions, they are completely different. Hoffman sits in the middle of a swarm, moving around the table, buffing and taking abilities and armor to make himself and the swarm more powerful. Ramos is a backline caster, sits in the back the whole game creating spiders, can come out if necessary. If they have similarities to other characters, Ramos is most like Nicodem who does similar summoning, only with zombies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 No, the Drill Sergent also avoids your SPAs getting slow when they swarm/split Don't tell everyone.... The Drill Sergeant just does lots of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulfast Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Thanks, seems Hoffman got more then I understood from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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