Ratty Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) I occasionally need a second deck for running intros, I could just use a traditional deck of cards, but Tarot looks far cooler. So how would you match the suit, and what would you use for your jokers. I was thinking the Tower really has to be the Black Joker. Pentacles / Coins - Rams, as they are linked to wealth Wands / Staffs - Crows, as they are linked to suffering Swords - Masks, as is has links to psychological issues Leaving Cups - Tomes Edited January 11, 2011 by Ratty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin Swarm Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Traditionally, Swords are equivalent to spades, Wands are clubs, coins are (I think) diamonds, and cups are (I think) hearts. (I'm sure of the first 2, and fairly sure of the second 2.) From there you can just do the regular conversion to Malifaux suits. I like your idea of using the Tower for the black joker. (Bad=bad, whichever way it comes up.) I'm not sure what would be best for the red joker, though. I'm tempted to suggest the World, but part of me wants to say the Fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Dog Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I think for intros there is enough for a new player to concentrate on without having to worry about translating a different deck ! Even if you run the other deck yourself, its still helpful for the new player to see and understand your flips. I have a standard Malifaux deck and I struggle slightly if my opponent uses the puppet deck, so I think a set of tarot cards would be too much for a noob. If nothing else, I wouldn't do it as it might distract from the most important thing, the game itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Agreed with the above. While cool for your own use, making a demo more confusing may turn away newbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gensuke626 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Traditionally, Swords are equivalent to spades, Wands are clubs, coins are (I think) diamonds, and cups are (I think) hearts. (I'm sure of the first 2, and fairly sure of the second 2.) From there you can just do the regular conversion to Malifaux suits. I like your idea of using the Tower for the black joker. (Bad=bad, whichever way it comes up.) I'm not sure what would be best for the red joker, though. I'm tempted to suggest the World, but part of me wants to say the Fool. Red Joker should be The Hanged Man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Laughing Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I think for intros there is enough for a new player to concentrate on without having to worry about translating a different deck ! Even if you run the other deck yourself, its still helpful for the new player to see and understand your flips. I have a standard Malifaux deck and I struggle slightly if my opponent uses the puppet deck, so I think a set of tarot cards would be too much for a noob. If nothing else, I wouldn't do it as it might distract from the most important thing, the game itself. I think the idea is interesting, but a tiny bit difficult for new players. Like the above poster, I have difficulty understanding my opponent's flips with the puppet deck (especially as the symbols are occasionally partially covered). Some new players may enjoy it though. I would still consider keeping a normal deck handy for those having problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Also remember that some tarot decks have extra court cards in the mnior arcana (i.e prince, knave, queen, and King). As for the Red and Black Jokers I think Death is a shoe in for the black and fortune pretty much screams red joker. Would agree that this is definately not an intro deck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Q'iq'el Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 When I first heard about Malifaux on D6 Generation podcast, I kind of wished the designers used a Tarok deck instead of normal suit. It'd fit the creepy-oculty theme of the game somewhat more and the design possibilities go further too. On that note, my first Lilith crew colors were based on Tarot de Marseilles (red, blue, gold-yellow). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gensuke626 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 As for the Red and Black Jokers I think Death is a shoe in for the black and fortune pretty much screams red joker. Actually Death does not represent bad things happening so much as change or the end of one state of being before a new cycle begins. The Tower is a greater indicator of misfortune...And the wheel of fortune represents sudden changes in luck, both bad to good and good to bad where the World is generally an indicator of good fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) depends on the deck but generally true. I mentioned those cards mainly because I enjoy the art on those cards more then the other two you mentioned. Death Fortune Edited January 13, 2011 by Omenbringer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gensuke626 Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Admittedly death and the wheel are usually nicer designed than the tower and the world. I still think that the wheel of fortune is...less than appropriate for a Red...but to each their own, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarel Posted January 13, 2011 Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 Also remember that some tarot decks have extra court cards in the mnior arcana (i.e prince, knave, queen, and King). There's also the Deva Tarot, that's got a whole extra suit to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty Posted January 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2011 I quite like the Tower, especially as it often has rats on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Git Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 I think for intros there is enough for a new player to concentrate on without having to worry about translating a different deck ! Even if you run the other deck yourself, its still helpful for the new player to see and understand your flips. This. It might be cool for experienced players but for intros, no. I have a standard Malifaux deck and I struggle slightly if my opponent uses the puppet deck... Me too. I'm a little older and the eyesight ain't what it used to be. I love the material and quality of the Puppet deck but the suits and numbers are not very easy to read. Wyrd, please make a Standard Fate Deck with the material from the Puppet decks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty Posted January 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 Me too. I'm a little older and the eyesight ain't what it used to be. I love the material and quality of the Puppet deck but the suits and numbers are not very easy to read. Wyrd, please make a Standard Fate Deck with the material from the Puppet decks! But the Puppet Deck is easy to read.. if the picture's of a Master the Card is Good... if it's of a sorrow then it's not so good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Green Git Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 But the Puppet Deck is easy to read.. if the picture's of a Master the Card is Good... if it's of a sorrow then it's not so good. Not to derail your thread Ratty, but I can't read the suits to save my life from across the table. The numbers I can make out but it's work. Just give me good ol' white numbers on black background. High Contrast please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpio Posted January 14, 2011 Report Share Posted January 14, 2011 And of course Lady Justice for Judgement, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gensuke626 Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 And of course Lady Justice for Judgement, right? ... ... What?:confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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