Quick Leviticus question. :)

[Penemue]

...and perhaps an ignorant one, but I'm trying to figure out exactly how the Hollow Waif thing works. Does the following work?

a) Leveticus dies. Wee.

Closing phase begins. You summon Leveticus to a Hollow Waif, then sacrifice all Hollow Waifs.

c) Closing phase ends. You summon all sacrificed Hollow Waifs to Levicitus.

I'm not entirely sure if "summon" is the right function here, as I don't have my book on me. Anyway, just curious. And I apologize for not digging any deeper, but time is short before work.

[karn987]

Ahhh the Leveticus Circle of Life:

1) Levy dies at some point

2) During the Closing Phase, Levy is summoned to one of his Waifs

3) All the Waifs are Sac'ed

4) Discard your hand

5) Draw a new hand

6)During End Closing Phase, Waif's are summoned back to Levy

7) Move onto next turn.

[The Green Git]

As a new Leveticus player I too required a little thought to get my brain wrapped around that one.

I like Karn's "Circle of Life" label... consider it stolen.

[Wodschow]

Eh.. I think you should rather call it the Circle of Desolate Death..

But yeah, everything in this thread seems to be correct thus far..

Random Note: Some time ago they changed the 'summoned clause' with 'replace' on Eternally Shackled, only to change it back shortly after as that was a major cuddle to him, but apparently they intend to tweak him a bit.. Haven't seen V2 Leveticus.. Anyone knows about it?

[dakrulz55]

alls i can remember is entropic transformation was changed from "rst:-" to "rst:wp"

[Wodschow]

alls i can remember is entropic transformation was changed from "rst:-" to "rst:wp"

Ah.. What a pity I suppose it's for the better though xD

[tadaka]

Sigh relay wish if they were going to start sending out new cards they would post at least that part of the errata for every one to see.

[MrNybbles]

Random Note: Some time ago they changed the 'summoned clause' with 'replace' on Eternally Shackled, only to change it back shortly after as that was a major cuddle to him, but apparently they intend to tweak him a bit.. Haven't seen V2 Leveticus.. Anyone knows about it?

My LGS had a Black Friday sale so I picked up his box set with a V2 Leveticus Card. I also have Rusty Alyce V2. The SPAs and Hallow Waifs that I have are all V1 (with no version number listed).

Eternally Shackled: If this model is killed or sacrificed during the turn, replace a Hallow Waif with this model during the Closing Phase. Sacrifice any other Hallow Waifs in play. Discard your Hand and draw up to your Crew's Maximum Hand Size.

How on earth is 'replace' a big cuddle to him? So he can't be put 6" away from some Hallow Waif but rather in base contact. Why not move the Waif where you want him to respawn?

dakrulz55 is correct about his Entropic Transformation having a resist of Wp.

[Distaff]

Is this V2 card's update available anywhere? Entropic transformation has not been errataed.

Thought Entropic transformation was a little too good...

[Wodschow]

How on earth is 'replace' a big cuddle to him? So he can't be put 6" away from some Hallow Waif but rather in base contact. Why not move the Waif where you want him to respawn?

There's two things to it.

1) - As you said yourself you lose 6" of movement with Leveticus which is a considerable amount considering his Wk of 3. It means you have to play more risky with your Waives, it also means you can't hide them behind terrain and such.

2) - The other part of it: a Replaced Waif is neither Killed nor Sacrificed..

Go figure..

A replaced Waif won't come back due to Shackled, you have to summon new ones every turn if you intend to die with Leveticus, which you certainly still do - otherwise you'll run out and he'll be dead for good.

Edit:

3) - With the changes to Entropic Transformation it's harder to produce Waives even..

[MrNybbles]

Thank you Wodschow, I didn't think about him being down a Hallowed Waif now (mostly because I never played him before).

@Distaff: Good question. I can only assume that with the next errata Leveticus' V2 information will be included.

[Penemue]

Here's another one:

Leveticus takes 1 wd at the start of the closing phase. His text reads "if Leveticus is killed or sacrificed during the turn, summon him...during the closing phase." Waifs return at the end of the closing phase (I think).

Can Leveticus be at 1 wd before the closing phase, die to Unstable Necromancy, and be immediately summoned to a Waif, who will then be replaced at the end of the closing phase? It seems fidgety, but that's my take on it.

[tadaka]

V1 levi yes that is how it works. In V2 he would replace the waif when he comes back in and the replaced waif would not come back.

[Penemue]

V1 levi yes that is how it works. In V2 he would replace the waif when he comes back in and the replaced waif would not come back.

Waaaaaaaait. Is this v2 official in any way? I thought that they kept Leveticus with the "summon" rule.

[karn987]

The V2 is misprinted, see this post by Sketch on the big thread:

http://wyrd-games.net/forum/showpost.php?p=184912&postcount=111

[The Green Git]

Can Leveticus be at 1 wd before the closing phase, die to Unstable Necromancy, and be immediately summoned to a Waif, who will then be replaced at the end of the closing phase? It seems fidgety, but that's my take on it.

Yes. That's the way it works.

[Necromorph]

I'll have to keep my eye on this...I'm new to the game and bought Levi's box set mostly for the Abominations, then the people at my LGC told me how wierd his rules were. I've only played a couple games but the rules seem very...broken.