Nutcase168 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) So, there is no dedicated thread to the guy? I have to ask from the guild players, does he not peak your interests then? I'm personally very excited for him. I think he has some very interesting options for play and a nice wide array of models to choose from. But I love constructs. Edited August 25, 2010 by Nutcase168 spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder saint Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 dude! I got online, logged on and was thought to myself that I was going to open up the C. Hoffman Tatica and start asking questions like. Who are you taking? Also! I Adore R. Hoffman ;] but anyway I was thinking about taking the Bladed Mannequin things, use them as sort of the damage powerhouse since R. Hoffman isn't considered friendly and doesn't give his brother any boosts. Also keep the Duet separated and keep both Dancers, the Guardian and Hoffman all in base contact with each other. That way you give armor 4 to Hoffman, and the Dancers. Also take them simply because I hate Colette and I feel like rubbing it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutcase168 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 dude! I got online, logged on and was thought to myself that I was going to open up the C. Hoffman Tatica and start asking questions like. Who are you taking? Also! I Adore R. Hoffman ;] but anyway I was thinking about taking the Bladed Mannequin things, use them as sort of the damage powerhouse since R. Hoffman isn't considered friendly and doesn't give his brother any boosts. Also keep the Duet separated and keep both Dancers, the Guardian and Hoffman all in base contact with each other. That way you give armor 4 to Hoffman, and the Dancers. Also take them simply because I hate Colette and I feel like rubbing it in Sadly the Coryphee are arcanist only models. Not even Leveticus can take them. I think a guardian is a must for him. As for a totem, both are interesting, but the tool kit doesn't add as much to him as it does Ramos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder saint Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Sadly the Coryphee are arcanist only models. Not even Leveticus can take them. FUUUUUU- I completely missed that! I was gettin all excited too! god damnit, now I have to sulk over this. This is actually rather depressing now. What can he take outside of the guild, besides generic spiders, a slightly larger spider, the steamborg, the mechanical rider, and Joss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutcase168 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 FUUUUUU- I completely missed that! I was gettin all excited too! god damnit, now I have to sulk over this. This is actually rather depressing now. What can he take outside of the guild, besides generic spiders, a slightly larger spider, the steamborg, the mechanical rider, and Joss? Well the full arcanist list would be: steampunk arachnid Giant steampunk arachnid (Special forces) steampunk arachnid swarm Joss Steamborg Executioner Mechanical Rider Soul Stone Miner (Special Forces) Added to the full options available to any guild master but featuring: Guardian Hunter Peacekeeper Watcher Ryle And don't forget Coppelius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 He could also hire a showgirl as a Mercenary and get a Mannequin...which has some good armor for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I think Hoffman lacks the love at the moment since his models are not out and people are not big fans of proxing. That being said I am gonna get him for sure. And as I have said in other threads I know have an excuse to buy a Steamborg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutcase168 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 He could also hire a showgirl as a Mercenary and get a Mannequin...which has some good armor for him IIRC the showgirl after the extra SS would cost the same as a Guardian. Which could give him armor +4 or more depending on how his rule and shield wall work. (have to get book and rules to ask specific question later) And I think I've found some nice ways around the whole (all) requirements of the shield wall to allow it to move around more than you think. You drag Hoffman with another construct(drawn to metal) up to the max distance that the guardian can move by its rules (can't remember names right now) and then it still retains shield wall and gets moved around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboStele Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I'm super excited about Hoffman, but I don't have my Book 2 yet (on order) and I'm currently buried in other models I'm trying to paint and learn how to play. I'm a robotics guy at heart, so I always tend toward the mechanical units in games like this. So Ramos interested me a little as I've been getting into the game the last 3 months, but when I saw Hoffman and the other new Guild Constructs in the book at GenCon, I about flipped out. So I'm definitely looking forward to running some Brawls with him and Ramos, as then you could use the Coryphees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alemon Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 IIRC the showgirl after the extra SS would cost the same as a Guardian. Which could give him armor +4 or more depending on how his rule and shield wall work. (have to get book and rules to ask specific question later) And I think I've found some nice ways around the whole (all) requirements of the shield wall to allow it to move around more than you think. You drag Hoffman with another construct(drawn to metal) up to the max distance that the guardian can move by its rules (can't remember names right now) and then it still retains shield wall and gets moved around. But then Hoffman also gets a lure, paralyze and poison : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutcase168 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 true, but I'm trying to save money here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pancake ss Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Just got the book today man he's great lots of ideas for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killionaire Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 If Hoffman gets a box, what do you think will be in it? Hoffman Ryle Guardian 2 Hunters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poko Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Out of curiosity, is he a Scavenger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutcase168 Posted August 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I believe he is a scavenger. If I had to guess a box: Guardian (7) Hunter (6) IIRC Ryle (9) Watcher (3) 25 SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodschow Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 Yes he is (a scavenger), so can hire Alyce if that's what you were getting at.. But mind you that she comes at an extra price and won't hand out any cards as her rules only makes mention of Ramos and Leveticus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstep Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Just a note, he can only hire arcanist constructs without smoldering or frozen heart. That said, think Joss or a Steamborg. And of course always think the Piecemaker... err, I mean Peacekeeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killionaire Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Just a note, he can only hire arcanist constructs without smoldering or frozen heart. That said, think Joss or a Steamborg. And of course always think the Piecemaker... err, I mean Peacekeeper. That means Mechanical Spiders of all types, the Steamborg, Joss, the Mine Digger thingie, and most important of all, the Mechanical Rider. Yeehaw, C. Hoffman gets dragged along 10, assimilates Power Stage, and starts dishing out melee expert attacks like crazy. Or manual controls the Mech Rider for more attacks... with Crit Strike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder saint Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 true, how terrifying it would it be? Hoffman's totem makes the Peacekeeper Ignore he faulty circuitry, and the peacekeeper double drags someone close and then Hoffman reactivates it and he tears the poor sap to pieces. Not to mention the "semi-free" walk that comes with Relentless. Allow Hoffman to run around the board with his Pet Peacekeeper ^.^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutcase168 Posted August 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Hoffman lets the peace keeper go 15" and then he can have it attack twice since he can be dragged along. That is a lot of threat range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izikial Posted September 6, 2010 Report Share Posted September 6, 2010 If you give a guardian slow so the hoff can get fast, and then still use its shield wall, also as the hoff likes beign close to loads of constructs, i was thinking two guardians and steam borg next to him, you pull hoff with the steam and uses its steam cloud to cover your guys wial you sheild wall and stuff with guardians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutcase168 Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 IIRC shield wall is a (2) action meaning you can't perform it if you're slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scythewing Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Personally I can’t want to get my hands on the Hoff. I was thinking about running him with his brother and get rid of that pesky not a friendly target thing and giving his gatling gun Cb 6. Not to mention his totem with a couple of watchers, peacekeeper, and a hunter. I love the idea of a mechanic army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutcase168 Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Personally I can’t want to get my hands on the Hoff. I was thinking about running him with his brother and get rid of that pesky not a friendly target thing and giving his gatling gun Cb 6. Not to mention his totem with a couple of watchers, peacekeeper, and a hunter. I love the idea of a mechanic army. I'm right there with you, but I'm bringing a guardian to help keep him alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodschow Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Personally I can’t want to get my hands on the Hoff. I was thinking about running him with his brother and get rid of that pesky not a friendly target thing and giving his gatling gun Cb 6. Not to mention his totem with a couple of watchers, peacekeeper, and a hunter. I love the idea of a mechanic army. Haha.. Ironically you cannot get rid of Ryles 'Can't Connect' since you can only ignore talents on friendly constructs. You -can- however still use Machine Puppet on Ryle as it doesn't specify that the construct must be friendly (could even be an enemy construct). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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