Guy in Suit Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Just wanted to pipe in that I am very curious about how this ruling goes as well. I think a Vik/Friekorps crew would be a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsicle Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Has anyone posted this in the 'Rules Questions' thread(s)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvatarForm Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 I've asked sketch about this before and got a similar explanation. But just a read of it makes it kinda obvious. Outcasts do not hire Mercs as Mercs. It's literally that simple. Since they are not hired as Mercs, the Feikorps Mercenary ability does not kick in and ruin your ability to take other models that happen to have the Merc type. Just think about how everything is explained. You can only hire models from other crews that are Merc (normally). So when an outcast master hires an outcast model who happens to have the Merc characteristic, they are not invoking the ability of the Merc Char (ie hiring it out of faction) and thus not hired as a merc. See? Thats all there is to it. Especially since the language of Freikorps Mercenary lends to this understanding by stating "when hired as a Mercenary" ie there is a time when he can be hired as not a mercenary. And that is when he is hired within his own faction (Outcast) and thus Viktoria The key is what "hired as Mercenaries" means. It refers to when you hire a model with the Mercenary trait from another faction then the one your master is in. "Hired as a Mercenary" is when you hired them from another faction. Otherwise you are not hiring them as a mercenary, you are hiring them as a regular minion from your faction. The Freikorps are not hired as Mercenary's by Viktoria, they are hired as regular minions. Yes they are Mercenary's (so she can take them) but they are not hired as them by her so they don't exclude other Mercs. +1, Im in agreement with this. 'Hired as mercs' implies masters NOT of Outcasts hiring Outcast minions from the Outcasts with this tag. Within Outcasts, these minions are just other Outcasts. Similar to any other Master hiring from within their own faction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 28, 2010 Report Share Posted August 28, 2010 Asked the question in the rules forum Here. Hopefully we'll have an answer soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Here is a link to the official response Here. Vik can hire Friekorps. Topic closed. Hopefully the next errata will tighten the wording on some of those rules a bit so the RAW wont confuse RAI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekolo Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 Of course having resolved all of this I am not to terribly certain that I like the Friekorps. I mean they are all pretty solid, no doubt about that, and the cheap sniper is going to be nice. However, I am not sure if it is worth giving up Bishop over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodschow Posted August 29, 2010 Report Share Posted August 29, 2010 The Librarian... Heals both Viktorias at once thanks to Fates Entwined. Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekolo Posted August 30, 2010 Report Share Posted August 30, 2010 The Librarian... Heals both Viktorias at once thanks to Fates Entwined. Awesome! Okay yeah that might be worth shelving Bishop over. Though with most of my opponents my Victoria games either end with them at full health or DEAD. Still the librarian does represent some wonderful possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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