hannibal Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 So I just got into the game, picking up the Viktorias box set, the Ramos box set, and the Hans sniper model. The accolade: very nice minis. Well sculpted and very characterful. The gripe: in the future, could you guys not do itty-bitty bit parts? For example, the arachnids were a colossal hassle to assemble. Those tiny legs almost broke in cutting them off the metal tabs, and didn't fit into the holes. they're just too spindly. On Hans: that arm like that is as 'fiddly' as I'd go because it needed to be pinned. Viktoria: I hate when models have bits that connect at the hand. Especially when they have a weapon coming off them. That just screams "the lever principle is gonna pop me right off the first time this model snags on some terrain." And those hands are so delicate that pinning them was just a hassle. So, going forward with new miniature design, could you guys avoid having the models connect with these spindly little bits like that? Please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draykin Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 I had the same problem with the Samurai Zombies. The thing is that its realy hard to get the great character in the minis without the fiddly bits. Its got to be a bit of each. You want the great character you have to have some of the fiddlys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted August 23, 2009 Report Share Posted August 23, 2009 Considering the Viktoria and Spiders were our first and ... fifth if I recall correctly, models we ever made, then yup, we heard the consumer gripe and have made our miniatures much easier to go together these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hannibal Posted August 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Quote Draykin: I had the same problem with the Samurai Zombies. The thing is that its realy hard to get the great character in the minis without the fiddly bits. Its got to be a bit of each. You want the great character you have to have some of the fiddlys. I think the Hans model is just right. It's fiddly but its the whole arm, so you can pin it. I had to pin each of the viktoria hands for the paired masamune model and I simply ended up trashing them. Considering the Viktoria and Spiders were our first and ... fifth if I recall correctly, models we ever made, then yup, we heard the consumer gripe and have made our miniatures much easier to go together these days. Much thanks on that front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mananarepublic Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 0.5 mm wire and a drill bit :-) You hate it the first time but after the third you will love it! /M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubilee Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Totally off topic ramble: aww, man! How did I totally zone out on the gremlinette! *sniffle* ps. I think it is rather unreasonable to demand a different kind of freebie if the one being offered doesn't suit you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerousBeans Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 There's an old trick past down through the ages, from my fathers fathers father, to my fathers father...........etc when something's too small to pin (I play Infinity so get a lot of that!), take a tiny blob of modelling putty, glue it to the area (we'll say Viktoria's arm), then glue the other part on (her sword hand). Then pull them apart so the putty get "ripped" and glue those parts back together. The combination of the glue and modelling putty plus the extra surface area created by the putty ensures a really strong bond. Just make sure to either remove excess putty poking out the join or, for added strength, sculpt it into a rudimentary bangle or armband. That's what I do and it works a treat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pensfan Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 There's an old trick past down through the ages, from my fathers fathers father, to my fathers father...........etc when something's too small to pin (I play Infinity so get a lot of that!), take a tiny blob of modelling putty, glue it to the area (we'll say Viktoria's arm), then glue the other part on (her sword hand). Then pull them apart so the putty get "ripped" and glue those parts back together. The combination of the glue and modelling putty plus the extra surface area created by the putty ensures a really strong bond. Just make sure to either remove excess putty poking out the join or, for added strength, sculpt it into a rudimentary bangle or armband. That's what I do and it works a treat. This ^ Works perfect every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pensfan Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 My only complaint is a very minor one... Scale of models within the same line. In my Ortega boxset, you seem to have three scales of figs. Fransisco and Nino are the smallest, Loco and Perdita are normal, and Santiago is flippin' huge! However... that is a minor issue in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblyn13 Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 My only complaint is a very minor one... Scale of models within the same line. In my Ortega boxset, you seem to have three scales of figs. Fransisco and Nino are the smallest, Loco and Perdita are normal, and Santiago is flippin' huge! However... that is a minor issue in the grand scheme of things. Actually all of the Ortegas were sculpted at the same time by the same sculptor. Francisco and Nino and the runts of the litter, and Santiago is supposed to be a monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pensfan Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 haha.. well that would explain it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 Pretty much what he said. Folks come in all different shapes and sizes and we do that with the line as well, though we try to keep them in a general reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoM Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 when something's too small to pin Other than the little arials on the Infinity models, this doesn't ever exist. Staples are pretty damned tiny, and they make great pins for things like Viktoria's hands and such. And if you get those little arials, just drill the dent a bit deeper and glue like normal. the hole will hold much better than the dent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterdita Posted August 24, 2009 Report Share Posted August 24, 2009 never underestimate the power of super GEL, holds much better and fills gaps nicely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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