1E crews in 3E?

[Rather Bookish]

Hi all!  So I was a 1E player who took about a decade off.  Found my collection the other day and started looking into getting started again.  Turns out everything has changed!  And nothing works quite the same. Kinda lost!   So I was hoping folks might be able to help me put some decent learning crews together.  I’ve arranged what I’ve got by the themes I knew back in the day, but I think some might work a little differently.  I think I’m screwed on the Von Schill crew (Hannah, Steam Trunk, and Arik just weren’t things in 1e and are too expensive to put together now) but I think the FK might work in other crews?  Anyway, suggestions welcome.  Thanks!

Outcasts:

Viks x2, Vanessa, Student of Conflict, Ronin x3

Von Schill, FK Trapper, FK Specialist, Librarian, Freikorpsman x2

Leveticus, Hollow Waif x2, Ashes and Dust, SP Abom. x4, Des. Engine, Rusty Alyce

Hans, MF Child, Desp. Merc, Taylor, Bishop, Johan, Convict Gunslinger 

Killjoy (who is Neverborn now? Does he even work with Outcasts anymore?)

 

Gremlins:

Som'er, War Pig, Bayou Gremlins x4

Ophelia, Young Lecroix x3, Raphael, Rami, Francois, Pere Ravage (6)

Slop Hauler x2

[solkan]

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Hi all!  So I was a 1E player who took about a decade off.  Found my collection the other day and started looking into getting started again.  Turns out everything has changed!  And nothing works quite the same. Kinda lost!   So I was hoping folks might be able to help me put some decent learning crews together.  I’ve arranged what I’ve got by the themes I knew back in the day, but I think some might work a little differently.  I think I’m screwed on the Von Schill crew (Hannah, Steam Trunk, and Arik just weren’t things in 1e and are too expensive to put together now) but I think the FK might work in other crews?  Anyway, suggestions welcome.  Thanks!

Reorganizing your list according to the new keywords...

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Outcasts:

Viks x2, Vanessa, Student of Conflict, Ronin x3, Desperate Mercenary, Taylor, Bishop

The Outcasts Mercenary keyword.  And I'm pretty sure Viks x2, Vanessa, Ronin x3 is the new Vicks box, so there's that.  

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Von Schill, FK Trapper, FK Specialist, Librarian, Freikorpsman x2

The Outcasts Friekcorps keyword.  If I were in your situation, I wouldn't feel above just bashing together a walking treasure chest or something sized to fit on a 30mm base.    

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Leveticus, Hollow Waif x2, Ashes and Dust, SP Abom. x4, Des. Engine, Rusty Alyce

The Outcasts Almagam keyword.  You're missing the Scavengers from Leveticus's new box, but you could probably kit bash or proxy some suitable minions for them.

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Hans, MF Child, Johan

These are all Versatile.  They're going to be at least options in the three keywords you've got.

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Convict Gunslinger 

Bandit.  Proxy for a Scavenger?  

 

You're right about Killjoy being Neverborn now, and I don't think there's any way you're going to be able use that model with your other current models.

I don't want to make claims as far as what's going to be good or bad, but you've at least got the start (probably enough for full games) of three crews.  

[Hewks]

I'm in the same boat, except with the M2E stuff, i am presuming the cards, upgrades, schemes etc are all now irrelevant?

[Adran]

56 minutes ago, Hewks said:

I'm in the same boat, except with the M2E stuff, i am presuming the cards, upgrades, schemes etc are all now irrelevant?

Your plastic is still usable, but everything cardboard has changed. ( Models are still useable, although some have changed faction and the hiring rules have changed, so you might not be able to use exactly the same crews as you used to). 

 

[Corn]

No other way to put it, updating to a new edition can always be painful, although having a large pre existing collection can help ease the transition a lot.   Especially as models get shuffled around, and new totems and henchmen get added into the game that don't line up with older boxes.  The old Lucius box for instance would not include his new Henchmen Agent 46, and if you wanted to play Dashel, you would need to obtain a copy of his totem- the Dispatcher.  

It can be helpful to identify which models are important to your crews, and only sold in core boxes.   It may be worth it to find a suitable proxy, it may be worth it to use a 3rd party who sells individual models at a mark up.   If the model was repackaged, you may be able to find an older individual kit from Wyrd as well- such as through the Malifaux Classics or M2E sections on their webstore (you could obtain Queeg this way for instance).  

Either way, chances are as you ease back into the game, you'll want to do some research as to what individual pieces you need to bring your keywords up to speed, and figure out how to obtain those models efficiently.  

Sometimes you'll just straight up lose models and masters.  Nicodem is dead mans hand now... so he can't be played in most tournaments.  If you collected Nico... he is gone now.  Same with Ramos.  Some masters migrated factions, Guild players no longer have access to Lucas McCabe or Doc McMorning.  If you have those models... you can either start looking to play them in another faction... or try to sell / trade them to a friend.  

The rules are a bit easier.  The Crew Builder app offered by Wyrd is amazing, and has all the cards, all the upgrades, and has options to track wounds and status.  It has everything you need to start playing with your models.  

If you want faster tracking, Wyrd also offers all of the stat cards and upgrades free for download on their website, so you can print them out, and stick them into card sleeves to track with a dry erase marker.   Its worth checking these out anyway even if you have the cards to make sure that your cards are up to date due to the occasional errata.