regleant Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 This thread says no, the attacking model does NOT suffer damage if the model with Vengeance dies: https://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/150122-vengeance-and-black-blood-after-death/#comment-1216682 This thread says yes, the attacking model DOES suffer damage if the model with Vengeance dies: https://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/147954-kirai-rules-question-vengeance/?tab=comments#comment-1197617 Which is correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 ShinChan Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Vengeance would trigger in the step 2.f of the activation detailed timing. At that point there is no model in play, so no Vengeance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Maniacal_cackle Posted October 27, 2020 Report Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just to clarify as someone who was previously wrong on this... Vengeance does NOT say after damage (in which case it would happen before the model dies). Vengeance says after resolving the action. That's what causes the timing discrepancy so that it doesn't work the way it might seem to at first glance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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This thread says no, the attacking model does NOT suffer damage if the model with Vengeance dies:
https://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/150122-vengeance-and-black-blood-after-death/#comment-1216682
This thread says yes, the attacking model DOES suffer damage if the model with Vengeance dies:
https://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/147954-kirai-rules-question-vengeance/?tab=comments#comment-1197617
Which is correct?
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