Anung Un Rama Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 I love the models of Hans and big jake and want to take them in an outcast army regardless of performance. Which master and crew would be good to build around them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jafar Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Big Jake can be good in every crew. He will act as scheme runner. Of course you can take 4ss Void Wretch / Winged Plague who have other pros & cons. In Jack Daw crew in low points games he can be too much in 5ss scheme runners area, mostly you will use Guilty for that. Hans is not good. And I used nice words Could use more "hurting" ones. You will have 5 focused shots per game for 8ss. Mostly Hans will stay in deployment zone, you want to shot with focus, because he is missing built in so covers matter. Maybe in some games with nice shooting lanes he can shine, but otherwise I would take Sue / Librarian / Convict Gunslinger in his place You can use Big Jake in every crew. Hans may find his place in Jack Daw / Hamelin (helps him with move) and in all other crews if terrain is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 Both Hans and Big Jake have no natural synergy with a particular master. These means that generally they will work the same regardless of what master you select. I would say that Hans isn't as bad a Jafar suggests, but you need to use his toolbox nature to make him "worth" more than a trapper which will deal about the same damage for fewer ss. And there are some boards/match-ups where he will struggle Jack can give out of activation movements. Tara can bury him and take his actions and/or give him fast. I can't think of other master specific bonus' at the moment. I pay better can give him a "free" focus each turn. Scout the field can allow him to shoot once without LOS. I can't thibk of any tricks with Jake at the moment, I've not yet used him due to the lack of model, and only faced him a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khoregard Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Trappers are really really good, but hans shines if you can exploit his ability. For instance, he can shoot thru the two markers for Guard the Stash, which otherwise is a huge LOS issue for guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFly TNT Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Big Jake is useful in Strats where the number of bodies matter as he counts as 2. So for example he can get you Turf War on his own, or is two models for Recon. He also has Don't Mind Me which is useful for Headhunter as you can pick up heads while in engagement. Otherwise he's okay as a 5ss Enforcer with a 6 Ml attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/5/2016 at 5:41 PM, SuperFly TNT said: Big Jake is useful in Strats where the number of bodies matter as he counts as 2. So for example he can get you Turf War on his own, or is two models for Recon. He also has Don't Mind Me which is useful for Headhunter as you can pick up heads while in engagement. Otherwise he's okay as a 5ss Enforcer with a 6 Ml attack. Big Jake is actually a named Minion - so no upgrades for him. Lucius is delighted, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 13 hours ago, Eclipse said: Big Jake is actually a named Minion - so no upgrades for him. Lucius is delighted, though. My book says he is an enforcer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Bear Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Same, it looks like theres been either errata or PMF has it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 4 hours ago, Ludvig said: My book says he is an enforcer. Oh. If that's true, then my bad and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludvig Posted August 9, 2016 Report Share Posted August 9, 2016 Mistakes happen. If PMF has it wrong someone with an account there might want to change that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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