Void wretch time is meaningless interaction

[Azrrael]

So if a voidling is either fast himself or is targeting a model that is buried with fast for the satiating void action would he get ++ for time is meaningless? 

the issue is the wording 

Time is Meaningless: This model gains
++ on all duels with models with the Fast
Condition.

(2) Satiating Void (Ca 4 / TN: 12): Choose a buried model. Remove all Conditions on
the chosen buried model and heal it 2/3/5 damage.

 

[Pyrflamme]

The target needs to be Fast, and it doesn't matter whether or not the Fast target is buried.

[solkan]

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Time is Meaningless:  This model gains on all duels with models with the Fast Condition.

The other model has to have Fast, not the Void Wretch. 

Cf.:

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Protection from the Nemesis: This model gains in all Df duels with the enemy Crew's Leader.

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Certain Death: Models may not declare Df Triggers in duels with this model.

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Bound: Friendly Master models within 6 gain  to all duels with a model with the Sewn Fate Condition.

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Pretty Lights: Enemy models may not declare Triggers in duels with this model.

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The House Wins: This model wins opposed duels with enemy models on a tie, even if it was the Defender.

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Sepsis: This model gains during opposed duels with models which have at least one Upgrade attached.

 

[Azrrael]

9 minutes ago, solkan said:

The other model has to have Fast, not the Void Wretch. 

Cf.:

 

the issue was that the 2 action is CHOOSE a model so is that model still involved with the duel as if it said target because the action is a simple duel 

[dropdeadcriminal]

Your right, it is vague.

I would say no, because you are not dueling with the buried model. 

[Adran]

At no point in the Satiating Void action is the Void wretch performing a duel with a model with Fast. So it'll not get the time is meaningless bonus'.

(I read the Time is Meaningless: This model gains ++ on all duels with models with the Fast Condition. to mean duels against a model with Fast, rather than all duels containing a model with fast, otherwise the void wretch would be getting the bonus is it was fast on everything and it doesn't have  a duel with itself). 

[LunarSol]

Also the Void Wretch doesn't have Fast anymore anyway, right?  As soon as you activate a model with Fast and get through the generate AP phase of its activation, it generates the 3rd AP and Fast goes away.  The only time it can attack with Fast on itself is if its Obey'd or something like that.

[Adran]

Fast goes at the end of a models activation. 

That's very useful for the void wretch (who will get bonus' to their defence flips against models attacking them), and  really annoying for Bete and the Young Nephlim (who can both give themselves fast during their activation).