amanwing Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) The question is how to best counter Perdita. The Crew will include:Perdita, enslaved Nephilim, Franciso, Santiago, Nino, Austringer, Pistolero, PistoleroI would like to play the dreamer but I think a Lilith crew with Stitched, Teddy and Waldgeist works better. What are your opinions? All NB masters and models are allowed. Edited December 2, 2015 by amanwing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulky Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Silurids for scoring, waldgeists for tarpit (always behind cover).Yesterday I player Zoraida vs Perdita, Voodoo Doll and a Nurse is 100% the best way to deal with Francisco or Papa, he ended up killing his own Papa because he knew the alternative was Zoraida Obeying him into walking and exploding his own crew.Perdita really loses a lot without Francisco, if you can manage to attach a Doll to him basically you can then trade one Nurse AP for his entire activation for the rest of the game (or at least makes him dedicate resources to killing one of your minions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eclipse Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Take care of Francisco. I he falls, the Ortegas start to break down. Schemes and your preferred master/crew are also important. But really, even though Perdita can shoot quite well, she can't do everything, so: Take care of Francisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodiless Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 (edited) Without knowing schemes and strats it is hard to say for sure, but mostly I take Lilith against Guild and Perdita in particular. Lilith's ability to cut line of sight with her trees is so important against them that I would hesitate to take anyone else. Not only because Perdita can kill basically any model she can see if she really tries, but because of Nino. If the scheme pool includes things that require interacts you can pretty much guarantee that Nino is going to be parked somewhere hard to reach with good LoS. I've seen people go through whole games without ever being able to take an interact because of him. Edited December 2, 2015 by Bodiless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Aside from what has already been mentioned, I will add to be sure to play with at least the recommended amount of terrain (25-50%) favoring the high side (I seem to recall reading that the recommended amount of terrain is even higher now but don't have the Starter rule book to confirm). The Ortega's are frequently called broken when players neglect this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4554551// Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Focus them down. Go for one model, kill it, move on. Ortegas are an elite crew, so losing a single model hurts them more than losing a model hurts you. I typically take Jacob with 2 illuminated and huggy and go from one guy to the next. They have to put in effort to resist the hit squad so you're free to go for schemes with everything g else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nical Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Use terrain and take cover to hide your models.Choose schemes for situation wisely. For example, Nino can deny your interacts and you must try to kill Francisco.Francisco's El mayor is great, so you must kill him or other models far from him First. I recommend Lilith(Block LoS & Killing), but I prefer Collodi against Perdita. Because I'm used to play him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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