valhallan42nd Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Does a flip for hazardous terrain suffer a if the model in the terrain has Hard to Wound + 1? My inclination is to say "yes, it does" as Hazardous Terrain deals damage off of a flip, but that would seem to increase the power of HtW a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MasterDisaster Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Don't fool yourself - the Viks don't have a tough time killing models with HtW. Welll... yeah that's true actually. They don't really struggle killing anything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zFiend Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Welll... yeah that's true actually. They don't really struggle killing anything! They do not. They.. Do.. Not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MasterDisaster Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Step 1. Viktoria (of your choice) Step 2. Mark of Shez'uul Step 3. Profit!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dirial Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Step 1. Viktoria (of your choice) Step 2. Mark of Shez'uul Step 3. Profit!! Seems like you found your personal version of "Expunge all the things!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MasterDisaster Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well I tend to have the same mental process when playing a variety of games which is why I'm currently trying new Masters to find a different way of doing things. Usually it looks a little like this... Q. How do I win Warhammer? A. Apply Ogres directly to the face... repeatedly! Q. How do I win WarmaHordes? A. Apply Titans directly to the face... repeatedly! Q. How do I win Malifaux? A. Apply the Viks directly to the face... repeatedly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dirial Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well I tend to have the same mental process when playing a variety of games which is why I'm currently trying new Masters to find a different way of doing things. Usually it looks a little like this... Q. How do I win Warhammer? A. Apply Ogres directly to the face... repeatedly! Q. How do I win WarmaHordes? A. Apply Titans directly to the face... repeatedly! Q. How do I win Malifaux? A. Apply the Viks directly to the face... repeatedly! I know exactly what you mean. I played Tyranids, Trollbloods, and now Justice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jonahmaul Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I always use Marshals if I have to cross dangerous and severe terrain. Marshal's still take damage don't they though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zFiend Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Seems like you found your personal version of "Expunge all the things!". That is true! Whirlwind all the things! And you have your own Onslaught all the things! Not so different after all.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MasterDisaster Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Marshal's still take damage don't they though? Yeah, Unimpeded only prevents penalties when moving through Severe Terrain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dirial Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Marshal's still take damage don't they though? Yarp. And you have your own Onslaught all the things! It's more Crit Strike all the things with me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zFiend Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Well Crit Strike is what I usually aim for as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Seregon Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Step 1. Viktoria (of your choice) Step 2. Mark of Shez'uul Step 3. Profit!! Add in Sisters in Fury for even more profit! So Much Profit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MasterDisaster Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Add in Sisters in Fury for even more profit! So Much Profit! Good call! Amendments must be made! Step 1. Viktoria (of your choice) Step 2. Mark of Shez'uul Step 3. Profit Step 4. Sisters in Fury Step 5. ALL THE PROFIT!!! Step 6. Grin like the Cheshire Cat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 valhallan42nd Posted February 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Sadly, some of the best answers for Sisters are in Outcasts. Ronin can't be charged, and Librarians strip the native from them. Daw can stall them, and put them out of position... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Jonasty Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 But tree roots can hurt your ankles. I've seen Evil Dead, I know how bad Lilith's trees can get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kadeton Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 IMO the best way to counter the Viks is the combination of Sub Zero and Explosive Demise - just like in every other situation, Rasputina has all the answers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zFiend Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 I've seen Evil Dead, I know how bad Lilith's trees can get. Hahahaha. Very true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dirial Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 IMO the best way to counter the Viks is the combination of Sub Zero and Explosive Demise - just like in every other situation, Rasputina has all the answers. You know, Godlyness once made a pretty interesting case for Sub Zero doing exactly nothing against a Vik charge or a Whirlwind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zFiend Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 You know, Godlyness once made a pretty interesting case for Sub Zero doing exactly nothing against a Vik charge or a Whirlwind. Was it about the timings again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dirial Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Was it about the timings again? Nah. He just pointed out that ending the activation doesn't mean that the current action ends, and as Charge and Whirlwind produce additional actions, the trigger would do nothing at all until the Charge and all the Whirlwinds are resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zFiend Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Nah. He just pointed out that ending the activation doesn't mean that the current action ends, and as Charge and Whirlwind produce additional actions, the trigger would do nothing at all until the Charge and all the Whirlwinds are resolved. Hahaha. Sometimes I miss that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dirial Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Hahaha. Sometimes I miss that guy. Agreed. He was ace at pointing out weird stuff. Made the forum more... weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 zFiend Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 Agreed. He was ace at pointing out weird stuff. Made the forum more... weird. Sure did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jonahmaul Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 He's still around no?! I can see a case for it but doesn't sub-zero state 'immediately'? I got into a 'discussion' about it with something else that also had immediately in it and to my mind (as Malifaux uses common language) immediately means exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MasterDisaster Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 He's still around no?! I can see a case for it but doesn't sub-zero state 'immediately'? I got into a 'discussion' about it with something else that also had immediately in it and to my mind (as Malifaux uses common language) immediately means exactly that. Yeah it does state immediately however it's something to do with how triggers resolve, effectively the arguement is that trigger's effects will need to be resolved entirely before the activation can end. Same sort of logic applies to the charge action if I recall. I'm at work at the moment so can check my book. If I came across this though for the sake of easy play I'd just stop murdering stuff though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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if the model in the terrain has Hard to Wound + 1?
My inclination is to say "yes, it does" as Hazardous Terrain deals damage off of a flip, but that would seem to increase the power of HtW a bit.
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