Obey and Scheme Markers

[Sholto]

In a recent game, my opponent used Huggy's version of Obey to make my Mech Rider shoot a model and used the trigger that allows the Mech Rider to place scheme markers. My opponent said that because he was controlling the Mech Rider for that Action, the scheme markers placed would be his scheme markers and that is how we played it.

 

Was this right?

[MasterDisaster]

I believe that when Huggy uses his Pseudo-Obey the model is considered friendly for the duration of the action. Should he perform an action that results in the placement of a scheme marker I'd argue the controlling player takes control of the Marker in question. Your model placed the marker but at the time he was friendly to the opponent and it was the actions of the opponent that caused the marker to be placed so I'd say you guys played it right. 

[Ausplosions]

Bear in mind that usually obey does not work this way. Usually allegiance does not change.

[MasterDisaster]

Yeah, I think it might be because of the specific wording on Huggys action that allows this to work. Heed My Voice I think it's called. 

[Sholto]

Heed My Voice says that the target considers Huggy friendly for the duration of the Action. I think that is so that Huggy cannot use his Terrifying on them and then choose to have them fail (auto-Paralyse). I don't think it makes the target friendly to Huggy's crew, however, unless that is a general rule of Obey-type situations?

[Fetid Strumpet]

It doesn't work. The obeyed model considers the darkness, and only the darkness as friendly. It still considers the entirity of the darkness' crew as an enemy. Any scheme markers placed by by an opposing crew because of the darkness' obey ability still count for the opposing crew.

[MasterDisaster]

Aah that's right! Fetid has it spot on. 

[Ausplosions]

It doesn't work. The obeyed model considers the darkness, and only the darkness as friendly. It still considers the entirity of the darkness' crew as an enemy. Any scheme markers placed by by an opposing crew because of the darkness' obey ability still count for the opposing crew.

Oops. Of course!

[Adran]

Also worth pointing out that the Mechanical rider only drops scheme markers if it shoots an enemy model.

[Sholto]

Thanks everyone