Gremlin guy

I was going through all the rules forum post when I came across this one that raises a question for me. If a model with flying, leap, float, or a similar rule is on a Ht 5 object and wants to move to a ht 4 object that is 4 inches away, does it need to fall down,move over, then move up or can it just move the distance across and fall the inch down?

Awesome. More so because I have those models!

Thanks again to everyone for the help. I do understand that list building is going to be different depending on schemes, terrain, etc... This is just me being lazy and trying to make sure I don't stuff my list with things that are terrible against the Dreamer and things he may bring (Teddy).

I pit in an order for the wave 1 and 2 gremlin decks through my FLGS tonight. It will probably take a bit longer than if I ordered through the web page, but I like supporting the store since I play there. After looking g through my models, gremlins made the most sense. I've got four of the Gremlin Masters (Zoraida, Ophelia, So'mer,and Wong) and I have a Lott of thethe other old stuff since I couldn't bring myself to sell the Gremlins (I did trade out 6 piglets though). Here is what I have: Masters Ophelia LaCroix So'mer Teeth Jones Zoraida Wong Henchmen Francois LaCroix McTavish Totems Skeeter (2) Voodoo Doll Young LaCroix Enforcers Lenny Pere Ravage Rami LaCroix Raphael LaCroix Burt Jebsen Gracie Gremlin Taxidermist (1) Minions Bayou Gremlin (3 or 4) Hog Whisperer (1 with 1piglet) Slop Hauler (2) War Pig Peons Pigapult Stuffed Piglet (6) I also have some never borne, sillurids, bad juju, Collodi's crew, etc... With these models, what kind of lists would you build at 35 and 50 SS? Also, what in the above would work well against a Dreamer list?

The PP forums is exactly what I was thinking of. I generally only hit the rules, Trollbloods, and terrain forums.

All, Thanks for the information. So many of them seem good I'm still no closer to choosing. @Dirial: I had read the individual master write ups one wikki, but the pa you linked to is exactly I was looking for. Also, great write up!

@ Zfiend: 1 for each faction I'm interested in. The assumption being the faction subforum would have the most expertise in that factions masters. @Math: I have everything on your list except Merris so that's good news for me. Now to get the cards. Great write up too. @ both: Thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of the lack of models for Gremlins. Are most of the cards out yet? I've looked at the wikki, its great, but it doesn't give the same feel for the caster to me, that these forum post can.

Thanks for the replies. @ Dirial. Too late. Since I haven't been back on the forums that long I was afraid people might stick to their factions subforum and not branch out. It appears this isn't the case though and I didn't need to post under the three main factions I'm interested in. Also,thank you for the link. I've been going through it over the past couple of days, but I wanted to see what options here differed if at all.

I'm returning to the game and haven't played since the 2E beta started and I'm not sure which master I should jump back in with. When I last played, I was all over the place and owened crews from each faction except 10T. This time I would like to be a little more focused and choose a master and then faction to learn well. My first box set and original love was Ophelia. The shooting is great and I love gremlin shenanigans! I have less experience with S'ommer but he always seemed to have great tricks under his hat. How are thier playstyles now, or, if you played 1.5 as well, what has changed and what remains the same? The other masters they're up against for my attention are: Nicodem, Zoraida (Neverborn), Collodi, and Lucious (guild and neverborn). If you have any experience with these masters to compare and contrast, it would be appreciated as well.

I'm returning to the game and haven't played since the 2E beta started and I'm not sure which master I should jump back in with. When I last played, I was all over the place and owened crews from each faction except 10T. This time I would like to be a little more focused and choose a master and then faction to learn well. For Neverborn I have, and really enjoyed playing Zoraida and Collodi. I also have Lucius, so he's a possibility. In 1.5 I loved Zoraida for her card related abilities, and her ability to just mess with your opponent from afar while remaining safe (relatively so anyway). Collodi was lots of fun as an extremely fast yoyo of death and he was always harder to kill than my opponents thought. I've never played Lucius, I got him just before I stopped playing. How is thier play style now, or, if you played 1.5 as well, what has changed and what remains the same? The other masters they're up against for my attention are:Nicodem, Zoraida (gremlin), Ophelia, S'ommer, and Lucious (guild). If you have any experience with these masters to compare and contrast, it would be appreciated as well.

I'm returning to the game and haven't played since the 2E beta started and I'm not sure which master I should jump back in with. When I last played, I was all over the place and owened crews from each faction except 10T. This time I would like to be a little more focused and choose a master and then faction to learn well. For Resurrectionist I have, and really enjoyed playing Nicodem. In 1.5 I loved his summoning, tricks with the zombies, and his ability to support his crew with healing, buffs, and rebuffs to the opponent. How is his play style now, or, if you played 1.5 as well, what has changed and what remains the same? The other masters he's up against for my attention are: Zoraida (gremlin and Neverborn), Collodi, Ophelia, S'ommer, and Lucious (guild and neverborn). If you have any experience with these masters to compared contrast, it would be appreciated as well.

I have my rulebook now and I agree with Myrrä

All pigs is a general statement, example all pigs are beast. All friendly pigs in play is not general at all, it is specific to friendly pigs in play. It applies to this friendly pig, that friendly pig, and those friendly pigs. But not that enemy pig or this friendly gremlin.

Is Pig Sling a 1 time effect perpig or a continuous effect? It doesn't say "and cannot gain the Beast characteristic" but, since I don't have a rulebook yet (soon) it may be continuous and not matter. In my limited time back on these forums, I usually agree with Myyrä, but I don't agree with the rational this time. One is not more specific than all, it is just more limiting. If Pig Sling is continuous, it would lose the Beast characteristic (but keep Primal).

Sounds great! Now to go through my models and see which master I want to start with.

Thank you for your response Myyra, I'm glad to hear that balance and stability are strong. For concise, I want rules that work as they are written so players don't have to guess at how something works. As an example, the other game I play (warmachine) IMO has a good rules set. Yes. There are some rules interactions that don't seem to make sense to me, more so for some people and less so for others. I don't want this to become a thread on who's rules suck more, but that is an example of what I consider to be mostly concise (no one will get it perfect). I also forgot to add Nicodem as a master I enjoyed,and I had just started learning Levi. Any input on those casters, including the ones in the OP would be awesome.

I started playing in February, the same year 2E was announced, but due to a lack of players, and several other things, I stopped in June of that same year. Now there is a person at my FLGS that wants to start playing and i'm trying to decide if its the right time to come back. Also, if I do return, which master should I use? In 1.5 I was very fond of (in no particular order) Ophelia, Zoriada, and Collodi. How similar is thier play style now? There are several things I would consider most important to this decision: Game balance (faction and inter faction) Game stabity (how often are changes/errata needed) Concise rules (yes, I understand not all can be conciçe, but are the majority?) Thank you in advance!

I'll be providing a demo and helping people prepare for the tournament I'll be hosting later in the month. Where: game Vault, Fredericksburg, Va when: 12 June, 6pm till 8pm

Going to have to buy Lady J and Taelor to try this!

Pigapult and Avatar Nicodem.

These are awesome. Would love to get a deck, but sequestration just hit. If you still have some after the fiscal year though, I'm in!

Here is the link to the Game Vault forum. http://http://forums.thegamevault.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=737

See you there!

What Malifaux gaining grounds tournament 30 soulstone single faction hiring pool (60ss) $10 entry fee shared strategies, story encounter. (Treasure Hunt, Slaughter, Contain Power) 3 rounds Where The Game Vault, 6328, five mile centre park, suite 414 Fredericksburg, VA, 22407 When June 22, 1200 (noon)

Welcome! Zoraida is a fun master, you'll want to buy the voodoo doll and maybe some stitched or wicked dolls to go with the set.