Malicte Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Clarification: I got that backwards. Nino got an across the board damage drop. Hans is still 8 stones. Papa Loco: "Hold This" is now a buff to a friendly model, not a debuff to enemies. Poltergeist: Took a hit to Df and Wds. Still on a 50mm base. Pandora: No major changes. ---------- Post added at 03:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:14 PM ---------- Nino now has a built in Ram for critical strike to compensate for that damage loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelious1424 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Does Seamus still have his, "He's Insane!" trigger on the BoT? Also, is McMournings Summon trigger still called "Abra Cadaver!"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Poltergeist was already low DF with only 6 wounds - how much of a hit did it take?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csonti Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Poltergeist: Took a hit to Df and Wds. Still on a 50mm base. Take a hit like LOWERED? I can hardly believe this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Wow twice in one pass I got it backwards. Defense bump, wound hit. Turns out I'm bad at reading today. Still called "Abra Cadaver!". He's Insane! is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Phew - sounds better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Wow twice in one pass I got it backwards. Defense bump, wound hit. Turns out I'm bad at reading today. An ice-pick stuck in your forehead will do that to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyPerez Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hans: Bump to severe damage. Disarm no longer requires a discard. Range down 4" (with a corresponding 8" drop to focus range). Also, cool new art of Hans on the general outcast upgrade page. ---------- Post added at 03:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:02 PM ---------- Nino: Got an across the board damage boost. Also got a new rams trigger to increase the total of his Sh duel When did disarm require a card to discard? Don't remember ever seeing that in open beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Sorry for the headache and thanks for the intel. Since I'm also a greedy bastard, I'll put up some more questions. Does Lady J still get another + to damage from her upgrades? Any changes on Nicodem or Seamus? And how about Sebastian or Mortimer? Anything on Mei Feng? And I'll stop now before you rue my name, RUE I SAY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyPerez Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Also do you mean Han's range is now 14 like they cuddled it in beta or did they really lower it 4 more inches? Cause sniper rifle with 10 inch range when there are pistols with 12 inch range is just stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malicte Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Once again my bad. Disarm now REQUIRES Hans' controller to discard a card to apply the Disarm effect. Which, honestly, is probably a good change. I know that I used Hans to spam that on my opponent's melee beaters. And with that I think I'm gonna go sleep again. I'll make another pass through this thread later and get more questions answered, so keep them coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darguth Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Any further tidbits on what Ophelia's new upgrades do? My brother is at Gen Con and bought me my arsenal pack, but he has yet to fulfill my request for details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Mcmold Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Sorry to hear about the migraine and thank you for the sneak peeks. I don't have any smart questions. I was wandering about Ophelia and you've already answered that one and the questions about Waldegeist, Lilith and Papa. Did they change Myranda or her upgrade Skinwalker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Sorry to hear about the migraine and thank you for the sneak peeks. I don't have any smart questions. I was wandering about Ophelia and you've already answered that one and the questions about Waldegeist, Lilith and Papa. Did they change Myranda or her upgrade Skinwalker? Most of these have been answered already. Here's what I remember: Waldgeist: Trees they make are no longer dense. Lilith: Ml7 on card's attack, 3" range card drops to 2SS. Papa: Take this boosts a friendly model rather than weakening an enemy model. Skinwalker is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Any changes to illuminated or beckoners? Are sorrows unchanged? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96p Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Any Changes on Mc Mourning and/or Transfusion ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Oh, realized one important one that I don't think has been answered: Did Bayou Gremlins change (eg, drunk and reckless with no other changes)? Closely related question: Did Hog whisperers get changed? Both seemed to have some issues, or at least a number of complaints right towards the end of the open beta. I would assume they both got some attention during the closed beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus Mcmold Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 It just struck me: Which art are they going to use for Perditas mini? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darguth Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Someone have pity on me and give some spoilage on the changes to Ophelia and Kin, pwetty pweeze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Ophelia still has gun upgrades just different names and effects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darguth Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Ophelia still has gun upgrades just different names and effects Mah point. Wut dey do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) 1 ignores LoS but not cover, 1 does 1/1:blast/1:blast:blast and burning +2, and the last one makes all enemies in a 3 take a horror duel and they all add in a (0) action as well. Edited August 17, 2013 by rgarbonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkmunk Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 finally back in the room from Gen Con, book in hand. What are the unanswered questions at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darguth Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 1 ignores LoS but not cover, 1 does 1/1:blast/1:blast:blast and burning +2, and the last one makes all enemies in a 3 take a horror duel and they all add in a (0) action as well. Thanks for the info! Sounds more interesting than the original ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypoking Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Not to belabor the point, but mysterious kin-ergy related zero actions Bonzo brought up, along with status of bayou gremlins/hog whisperers would be killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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