Limelizard Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 When should terrain be climbable? I have found mix feelings about this. A lot of people I know would like to just make all terrain climbable every game. I feel that not all terrain should be climbable because that detracts from things that have flight, arachnid, float, and spirit. Those abilities and characteristics should have an advantage over models that don't have them. I find people would like to make terrain climbable just because their opponent has models with those abilities. What are peoples opinions about climbable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravenborne Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 The rules refer to specific things like ladders. I myself am making a Malifaux table (old west town) and am making ladders where it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Footman Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 my take's what would make sense, if you have a roman style column that's as tall as a pringles can, then no, unless there was a ladder. same with sheer cliff faces, sides of buildings, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I allow climbing over everything. Flyers, floaters and climbers still have the advantage of being able to do it a lot quicker, but they aren't almost immune to any form of reprisal by keeping on the move when something finally gets to the ladder that lets it go up. But I'm also in the camp of not having anything that is taller than 3" and doesn't have anything in between to disallow immune by flight syndrome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sholto Posted September 20, 2012 Report Share Posted September 20, 2012 I tend to use a lot of city terrain, which means I have walls everywhere. If they are not climbable, several crews are in serious trouble, so generally everything is climbable in city terrain. There are plenty of stairs so that clever deployment and positioning can take advantage of these, but the fact that everything is climbable certainly does not leave models with Float or Flight feeling left out. With everything else having to climb, slowly, these models can move freely. Bear in mind that they ignore changes in elevation, so a 1" move for a model with Flight or Float can put them on top of a 10" high building. Or at the foot of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poulpox Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I don't like all-climbable terrains, however, it's very frustrating to have a shooty model camped on a roof and nothing in your crew to reach it; to avoid this I try to make sure tall buildings have an access for all, flat roofs have access points, and slopped roofs are Dangerous with the following profile: -/-/Slide, so if a model finishes an action on a slopped roof they make a Dangerous flip and if they slide off then make a fall flip (most of the buildings we play are Ht 3 at least), the price to pay to mess about on old Victorian tile roofs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sholto Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I like that Slide rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 I agree with Poulpox. Some terrain should be un-climbable and even impassable. But I try to make it that most things that you can get on top of have several access points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G. Footman Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 yeah, access points with unclimbables make sense, I just wouldn't want a game where everyone can run up walls like Spiderman, but a few ladders giving you access to a roof is a.ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamontius Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 Still, thematically, I think it just makes sense sometimes for pretty much everything to be climbable for certain models. The prospect of Baby Kade skittering up a sheer wall to get at something soft and worth stabbing just seems right. Or completely wrong, if you don't like nightmares. I'm going to go curl up in the corner and forget I ever saw "Trainspotting", now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kintaro Posted September 21, 2012 Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) On the flip side of lime lizards coin, she's not, as she's wont to do, giving the whole story. She has a flyer that she ALWAYS takes, and has had a couple of games where she's kept him on top of terrain where NO ONE had a chance to stop him. As was pointed out, all terrain should be climbable in some fashion....while the models with fly/float/etc clearly get a speed advantage. Ladders aren't a good example as most folks equate them to stairs, and the RM is pretty clear there. I guess the best advice is TALK TO YOUR OPPONENT BEFORE THE GAME STARTS!! PS - keep in mind that we are playing a game that IS NOT BASED IN REALITY!! We are playing amazing folks who can do amazing things! (During one of our games, LL once pointed to the wall of our shop and said "ok...climb that wall" Lol! Edited September 21, 2012 by Kintaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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