JisaacT Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Unexplained connection. What's the point? What can coppelius bring to the table tht c. Haoffman doesn't already have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 How much paralysing does Hoffman do? (honest question) The main reason for the ability is a literary one however, worth looking up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 The point, I believe, is to have fun and try something different. Its a thematic connection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requirement Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 I have had a lot of fun playing then together in larger stone games. Copelius adds a different function to the table and a model that can act on it's own, away from the Hoff Death Star. The literary connection is just a fun nod that Wyrd puts in its stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Albrecht Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 The point, I believe, is to have fun and try something different. Its a thematic connection Not thematic, meta. And while Coppelius is a choice made for fun, there's some serious potential when you take him and a Performer & Mannequin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranhamoose Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) It's actually a reference to the piece of literature Coppelius came from, which happened to be written by a man named C. Hoffman. It's a joke. My bad. His name was E. T. A. Hoffman. He's the guy who wrote the Nutcracker. Edited August 5, 2012 by Piranhamoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 It is in reference to a book titled "Der Sandmann" which was written by Hoffman, on of the characters is named coppelius. The story refers to the Sandman who steals childrens eyes to feed his own children on the moon. Or it could refer to an opera "The Tales of Hoffman" which is also based on "Der Sandman", however Coppelius in this story sells eyes to Hoffman to use in the robotic girl he is making. The opera has a more steampunk feel to it so it might be from that one however the model has more of a feel from the book. Wyrd does this a lot with their minis there are a lot of classical references within their game. I don't think there is any real reason game wise for this connection other than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscotopia Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 How is the opera Steampunk, because there are automatons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeB Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) I was referring to the feel of the clockwork automaton that is in the opera and its similarities to the creations that are in Malifaux, like the mannequins. The automatons have a steampunk feel not necessarily the whole opera. However the last time I worked on "The Tales of Hoffman" that scene had a very steampunk feel to it, the singer even got old metal roller skates and rolled around instead of walking. I had to create lots of interesting looking machines and gears to decorate Spalanzani's lab with as well, it was a lot of fun to make life size steampunk instead of in miniature. The stories of his other two loves were decidedly not steampunk though. Edited August 6, 2012 by JoeB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boscotopia Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 That sounds awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nix Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 On the original question, Coppelius brings some very interesting synergy to the game when he is paired with a hunter. As a paralyzed model does not get to activate but instead "Skips its activation", the Hunter gets its benefits when targeting models that were paralyzed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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