Leadstorm, gunfighter, and melee

[Iron Heel]

Hello,

Below are the stats for Leadstorm

(2) Leadstorm

(CC: 14/Rst: Df /Rg: :pulse6) Dg 4.

Since the Archanist Gunsmith has this spell as well as gunfighter, can s/he use Leadstorm while engaged in melee despite the icon?

Thanks

[egoon]

No. Gunfighter only lets you make Melee Strikes with the designated weapon. In this case the Custom Pistol.

[Hateful Darkblack]

So, do you take a negative flip if there are some targets in cover?

[bashamer]

it does not target.

[DeusInnomen]

The way I've always interpreted this spell is that you cast the spell, which you can only do if you're not engaged with anyone in melee, and the total of the spells is resisted by everyone (friend and foe alike!) within 6" against their Df stat.

As for cover penalties, I'm fairly certain they do not apply in this case because the actual spell's effect is a pulse and not a single ranged attack. The ranged icon is there to enforce the "not engaged in melee" requirement. Everyone is resisting the pulse's effect with Df and not resisting a ranged strike.

[egoon]

I'd think that the gun icon would also imply that models affected by the spell can benefit from Bulletproof.

[Ozz]

I'd think that the gun icon would also imply that models affected by the spell can benefit from Bulletproof.

I wont say as a definite answer, but i would not think so, due to it is a pulse and not a ranged strike, and as far as i understand, it is just ranged strikes that you get bulletproof vs a Ranged Strike.

[bulletproof #: This model gains armour # vs ranged strikes.]

[steelwraith]

the pistol symbol means that you cant cast this spell in melee and the only things that help vs damage are armour and imunites to pulses

[egoon]

Since it's a spell Magic Resistance would help vs damage as well.

And bulletproof gives armor vs ranged attacks (not just ranged strikes, so ranged spells would also qualify)

And according to the Rules Manual p.18 all attacks with the gun icon are ranged attacks.

[Ozz]

Oh, sorry about that then and thanks for the correction

[Iron Heel]

I got a bit lost in these replies as people seem tobe talking about muliple issues.

Can a model with gunfighter cast leadstorm while in melee?

[nilus]

No

Gunfighter states that a model may make melee strikes with the ranged weapon listed on the ability. It has nothing to do with spells and does not effect them

[Nazull]

Sorry to add this on but Can a Convict Gunslinger use the following skills in melee skill Due to Gunfighter

1 / Trigger Happy

2 / Rapid Fire(Pistol)

[Lungboy]

Trigger Happy is a trigger on his gun, so i don't see why it wouldn't work. Rapid Fire lets him make 3 ranged strikes, i don't think Gunfighter would allow those to be melee strikes.

Edited June 28, 2012 by Lungboy

[Kadeton]

I agree with Lungboy - Trigger Happy yes, Rapid Fire no.