Spells, LOS, and cover

[Paul Turner]

The fourth bullet point on page 15 of the rule book under obscuring trait states that you get soft cover.

Does this apply to ranged attack spells that are trying to target you?

[maxvonlaibach]

Yup. Ranged attack spells are resolved in the same way as ranged attacks, meaning you get cover and you can't use them in somebody's melee range.

[Paul Turner]

Thanks - any chance you can reference this rule for me?

Ie page number or rule section

I like to highlight rule queries to the rest of the group, and this really helps?

[Ausplosions]

It's any ranged (gun symbol) attack..

[GrAYFoX]

Thanks - any chance you can reference this rule for me?

Ie page number or rule section

I like to highlight rule queries to the rest of the group, and this really helps?

Sure. Pg. 50 Spell Basics

[Paul Turner]

Yes I see it now page 50 - spells basic - bullet point three.

So if attack spells follow the same targeting rules as ranged attacks they can target models in melee, but have to make a wp test, and there's a possability it may hit others in the melee?

Is my thinking right on this?

[Nazull]

Dose this effect Leveticus spells to that dont have the (gun symbol)

Entropic Transformation = Rg:12

Target on 2 Wd or less transforms in to something

Necrotic Unmaking = Rg:10

Target enemy model suffers 3 Wounds (not damage)

[Kadeton]

Yes I see it now page 50 - spells basic - bullet point three.

So if attack spells follow the same targeting rules as ranged attacks they can target models in melee, but have to make a wp test, and there's a possability it may hit others in the melee?

Is my thinking right on this?

Where are you getting the Wp test from? There's no test for firing into melee other than the target randomisation. Otherwise, you are correct. The target also get +1 to its resisting stat for every enemy it's engaged with.

Dose this effect Leveticus spells to that dont have the (gun symbol)

Entropic Transformation = Rg:12

Target on 2 Wd or less transforms in to something

Necrotic Unmaking = Rg:10

Target enemy model suffers 3 Wounds (not damage)

Spells without the symbol can be cast into melee or cover at no penalty.

[Paul Turner]

Where are you getting the Wp test from?

I'm sure i read this somewhere, or I may be getting confused at shooting your own crew, but after you have pointed this out I cannot find the rule anywhere, so probably in my head:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[Ratty]

The Wp test was originally in the first book. But was removed in the Rules Manual.

You don't have to take a Wp test to shoot into combat. TBH you can happily eat Desperate Mercs for Blood Counters, why would you be bothered by firing at them in combat with the enemy. This is Malifaux, Bad Things Happen.

[Paul Turner]

Thanks Ratty - sanity restored (only just).

I own the original rule book, and hadn't realised it had been removed until today.

Another one to communicate to the gaming group.

Thanks to everybody who has responded on this thread, think we can close this one down now*happy*

[Nazull]

Hi Ratty.

i love some of the stuff u have done for Malifaux

[Gruesome]

The Wp test was originally in the first book. But was removed in the Rules Manual.

So THAT'S what happened. I was playing against a friend a couple of weeks ago and said that a Wp check was necessary and he didn't think it was. I looked in the manual and could find no hint of it anywhere despite the fact that I thought I remembered reading it in the rules.

Nice to know that I was not crazy.

I think I was interested in the rule because I was trying to understand whether Nicodem could shoot decay into melee without a test since none of his crew would take damage and instead be healed.

But, its a moot point anyway since no check...