LonelyPath Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Yeah, okay not all of the paints but are in fact renames (and I know many will miss some of those names since they are iconic in the paint line), but let's get down to it. On the whole the paints are of quite a good quality, they are not groundbreaking, but they are good, though the new renamed white does leave much to be desired in the 2 pots I got. Both are extremely gloopy and have to be thinned 1 part paint to 1 part water to be made useable, but at least they will go further that way (heh). The real score I think is in the drybrush paint range as I think they are awesome. They work well, mix (with some work, I spent a while working this out) with other colours and other paint types and apply well to models without the old chalky look to the previous Citadel paint range. On the whole they are good, but not as earth shattering as GW claim and are worth trying. I had a friend pick up about £50 of paints of various ranges (heavy on the drybrush range though as those intrigued me most) and I was happy, but I do wish they'd kept some of the old names, Skull White and Chaos Black are iconic names in the paint ranges! Ro sum up, 9 out of 10 in my experience, but I am sure that mark will change as I encounter other paints in the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzo Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 if you are an old hat at painting miniatures, gw paints are just meh. if you are new to painting miniatures, its like the best thing since sliced bread. guess which demographic gw is trying to reach out to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Monkey Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 While the new change is interesting ... I cant help but think if I have to learn a full new range of paint why not make it a brand that does not cost me eight dollars (about four pounds) a pot. This is the fourth big change I have had to go through using citadel paint and everytime I end up losing the colours I really like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fritz the cat Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 meh, just seems like a marketting gimick to rehash an old product. Draw new/uninformed customers to bulk buy their decent but unspectacular paints, and force old painters to stock up on old colours for fear of losing them (rip tentacle pink) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiralngCadavr Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Personally, I think that the idea of categorizing their paints is a pretty good idea for new gamers. Though, renames are mostly pointless from a marketing perspective: what do you gain that's worth the amount of time it takes someone who's used to "skull white" to pick up "imperium white" (my made up name)? Because paints can be impulse buys, and you might have just lost 5-10 seconds of time where someone might consider that they don't need more white right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viruk Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 If only they used different buckets... The current ones are probably the worst on the marker (maybe only the P# ones are worse). It's impossible to keep the lid opened as they resigned from the element that kept them up. Other than that, it's next to impossible to store them upside down with round design of the lid. Still, I'll probably keep on buying some of the paints from the range that are useful (foundation paints and washes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyPath Posted March 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Dezzo - I have been painting miniatures and models for some 30 years and I still use GW for the most part. Mister Monkey - they have changed the names, but all of the previous range is there Sadly there's nothing I can do about the price though, but at least they've not gone up. fritz the cat & SPiralngCadavr - the paints are made by a new supplier and the old supplier had copyright on the names of the paints, or so it seems. Hence GW has had to change the names for legal reasons. Viruk - The pots now come with the fin on the back of every pot - instead of 1 in maybe 100 like the old paint range - so they all stay open now, this was a very welcome sight for me I have never stored paints upside down though, but that comes from using very very old GW paint pots that tended to leak if left upside down for more than a few days, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Have the changed there inks/washes well. I hope not since I really liked there last versions. I also dug their fondation line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viruk Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Viruk - The pots now come with the fin on the back of every pot - instead of 1 in maybe 100 like the old paint range - so they all stay open now, this was a very welcome sight for me I have never stored paints upside down though, but that comes from using very very old GW paint pots that tended to leak if left upside down for more than a few days, lol. That's good to know, thanks. I'm not saying I hate these paints, in fact I use many GW colors on a daily basis. It's just that I don't care much for the type of bucket they use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyPath Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Nilus, with the washes/inks, only the names have changed it seems, the Foundation line is also the same and has been expanded. What's interesting is that the new white paints directly over black to a good finish, but I am not fond of it as I find it to thick and gloopy. Viruk, glad to be of help I do wish they would go back to the last lot of black lidded pots though, those were much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted March 28, 2012 Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 Nilus, with the washes/inks, only the names have changed it seems, the Foundation line is also the same and has been expanded. What's interesting is that the new white paints directly over black to a good finish, but I am not fond of it as I find it to thick and gloopy. Yeah I stopped by the GW Battle bunker yesterday to get some liquid green stuff and talked to the guy about the new paints. He showed me the white fondation and its ability to paint over black was less then I expected. It coats better then most but like you said its thick. I would stick to several layers of thin normal white paint personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyPath Posted March 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2012 I'll likely get a 3 old pots, wash them out then then take 2 pots of the new white, split them between them and water them down evenly so they're how I like them. Heck knows I have enough old pots I used for mixing (hundreds of them somewhere since I never throw empty pots out!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewartoad Posted March 29, 2012 Report Share Posted March 29, 2012 Thought I would show a pic of the New GW Citadel paints in all their glory...enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyPath Posted April 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 But, for £333 pound I can do so many other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Holy crap its 536 US dollars! Thats a lot of cash. The old paint set was what, $200ish. I know there are a ton more paints in the new set but that is a crazy amount of money to drop on painting. Especially when you consider there are paints in there that will dry out long before you ever use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyPath Posted April 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Holy crap its 536 US dollars! Thats a lot of cash. The old paint set was what, $200ish. I know there are a ton more paints in the new set but that is a crazy amount of money to drop on painting. Especially when you consider there are paints in there that will dry out long before you ever use them. I think you summed that up quite nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Monkey Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 $1000 here in New Zealand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzyguy Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 $1000 here in New Zealand.... Poor kiwis :'( Go with the Reaper Master Series Paints. You'll still be able to afford models to paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzo Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 you don't even need that many colours... my palette only has ard 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyPath Posted April 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 My pallet of store bought paints is around 120, my actual pallet of paints in tubs is presently around 600. I tend to buy and mix paints right off the bat and make a complete pot as I work on complete crews and armies at a time, plus having a full pot (or 12 in the case of the Ork army I painted) of a mix helps greatly in shading and highlighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Monkey Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Poor kiwis :'( Go with the Reaper Master Series Paints. You'll still be able to afford models to paint. Reaper is what the Better half uses I will switch over to Coat d Arms I think .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viruk Posted April 9, 2012 Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 A very good review of the new range. It saved me some cash as I had originally planned to buy some of the dry and texture paints just to check them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyPath Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 I just picked up a retailer breaking the rules and selling some left over GW paints on Ebay so I snapped them up. They just happened to have almost every colour I needed to get new pots of I am fond of the new paints, but I still like the old ones and much prefer Skull White to the current gloop monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted April 11, 2012 Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 So here is my question. why are there three blacks? There is a primer Black, a black foundation and a black highlight. Okay this confuses me. I can maybe understand a primer and a normal black....but highlight black. Isn't it just black. Seems odd to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonelyPath Posted April 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2012 Primer Black works best as a hand painted primer. Black Foundation is much like Chaos Black, no idea about the Highlight Black though since I've not seen it being used, sorry. But 3 blacks was a bit odd to me too, but not as much as the 12 greens in the Layers range! lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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