Dumb Luck Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 You're getting at least four damage with Pere to everyone within three inches, even if he dies! Late game, it can be pretty good for some Ophelia related master killings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerousBeans Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 In my experience the pigapult is invaluable. Not only can it blow the crap out of things by firing Pere (Sholto once took out almost my entire crew doing this) and explody piggies but it's also great for certain strategies, firing gremlins all over the place to grab objectives. Just don't use it when Bete Noir is floating about, she loves this thing as much as gremlins do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrrn Posted September 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hmmm...just had a whacky thought (and probably a stupid thought, too, I'm sure). Since the Pigapult has the "Gremlin" characteristic, it can be pulled along by Ophelia using "Oo, Its a Girl" (I think that's the one).....And while the Pigapult may not need to move much in a game, perhaps it could be mobile cover for the other Kin? Ophelia pulls it along, the Kin follow keeping the Pult between them and their opponent, as needed until they attack. Like I said, whacky and probably not sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted September 26, 2011 Report Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hmmm...just had a whacky thought (and probably a stupid thought, too, I'm sure). Since the Pigapult has the "Gremlin" characteristic, it can be pulled along by Ophelia using "Oo, Its a Girl" (I think that's the one).....And while the Pigapult may not need to move much in a game, perhaps it could be mobile cover for the other Kin? Ophelia pulls it along, the Kin follow keeping the Pult between them and their opponent, as needed until they attack. Like I said, whacky and probably not sensible. Correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Thread Necro: Ophelia can't HIRE pigs. But she can hire cheap bodies in the form of 2ss Bayou Gremlins, and she can hire the Taxidermist who can turn corpses into stuffed piglets...true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBarlekamp Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Thread Necro: Ophelia can't HIRE pigs. But she can hire cheap bodies in the form of 2ss Bayou Gremlins, and she can hire the Taxidermist who can turn corpses into stuffed piglets...true? Yes, this is true. I've taken the Pigapult with Ophelia before. I usually use it against Levi and if I have deliver a message. I use it mainly to fling gremlins around. I've found that the Kin are going to serve you better in most games than the pigapult/gremlins/taxidermist you will hire in their place. I think it's too many points/wasted actions for ophelia to kill the gremlins for the counters, then summon the pigs, not to mention, what will the taxidermist do after you've made your 3 (or however many gremlins you killed) pigs? I wound up having to fling him across the board so he wouldn't be just sitting around doing nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I am thinking of trying this out at 40, as I've done everything I can think of with my gremlins besides 'pults and taxi's. Outcasts Crew - 40 - Scrap Som'er Teeth Jones -- 3 Pool Ophelia Lacroix [8ss] Bayou Gremlin [2ss]Gremlin Taxidermist [6ss]Pere Ravagé [5ss]Pigapult [4ss]Piglet [3ss]Stuffed Piglet [3ss]Stuffed Piglet [3ss]Stuffed Piglet [3ss] I shall inform of it's progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Thread Necro: Ophelia can't HIRE pigs. But she can hire cheap bodies in the form of 2ss Bayou Gremlins, and she can hire the Taxidermist who can turn corpses into stuffed piglets...true? Not really worth it since Ophelia has no way of replacing the Bayou Gremlins she kills for the Taxidermist into Stuffed Piglets. She also has no way to really move the Stuffed Piglets into position (outside of the Pigapult). Lastly, the SS cost for the necessary models is going to diminish the effectiveness of either e Gunline or Kin list (aside from being really telegraphed). Yes, this is true. I've taken the Pigapult with Ophelia before. I usually use it against Levi and if I have deliver a message. I use it mainly to fling gremlins around. I've found that the Kin are going to serve you better in most games than the pigapult/gremlins/taxidermist you will hire in their place. I think it's too many points/wasted actions for ophelia to kill the gremlins for the counters, then summon the pigs, not to mention, what will the taxidermist do after you've made your 3 (or however many gremlins you killed) pigs? I wound up having to fling him across the board so he wouldn't be just sitting around doing nothing About the same experinces I've had. I am thinking of trying this out at 40, as I've done everything I can think of with my gremlins besides 'pults and taxi's. Outcasts Crew - 40 - Scrap Som'er Teeth Jones -- 3 Pool Ophelia Lacroix [8ss] Bayou Gremlin [2ss]Gremlin Taxidermist [6ss]Pere Ravagé [5ss]Pigapult [4ss]Piglet [3ss]Stuffed Piglet [3ss]Stuffed Piglet [3ss]Stuffed Piglet [3ss] I shall inform of it's progress. This list will be great for turn 1 or 2 Assasinations (if the cards flip well anyway), but lacks to much focus for anything else. Main problems are Some'r isn't going to be able to build up Bayou Gremlins fast enough for Ophelia to lead a decent Gunline or replace the ammunition for the pigapult. You wont be able to recycle the Stuffed Piglets as they wont be leaving Corpse Counters. Lastly this is going to be very AP intensive to keep going thru a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Not really worth it since Ophelia has no way of replacing the Bayou Gremlins she kills for the Taxidermist into Stuffed Piglets. She also has no way to really move the Stuffed Piglets into position (outside of the Pigapult). Lastly, the SS cost for the necessary models is going to diminish the effectiveness of either e Gunline or Kin list (aside from being really telegraphed). About the same experinces I've had. This list will be great for turn 1 or 2 Assasinations (if the cards flip well anyway), but lacks to much focus for anything else. Main problems are Some'r isn't going to be able to build up Bayou Gremlins fast enough for Ophelia to lead a decent Gunline or replace the ammunition for the pigapult. You wont be able to recycle the Stuffed Piglets as they wont be leaving Corpse Counters. Lastly this is going to be very AP intensive to keep going thru a game. What do you think would be a more sustainable list to use the 'pult and Taxi? I've used the search and don't see many people's experience yet, I've played my gremlins in other methods through over and over and wana try these guys now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Also, I can't stress how good putting Ophelia in the Pult and suprising people by air dropping her next to their leader. Bloody priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Also, I can't stress how good putting Ophelia in the Pult and suprising people by air dropping her next to their leader. Bloody priceless. Can you soulstone the flip to survive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Can you soulstone the flip to survive? The duel is just uncheatable, so I would say so yes. *waits to be proved wrong* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucidicide Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 The duel is just uncheatable, so I would say so yes. *waits to be proved wrong* Uncheatable as opposed to unmodified. Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBarlekamp Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I've always played you could. Uncheatable in the same way as a black joker is uncheatable. you can still SS it. This is a nasty surprise for a Levi player if he's never seen it before, he kills himself and you drop Ophelia back and smoke the waifs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I've always played you could. Uncheatable in the same way as a black joker is uncheatable. you can still SS it. This is a nasty surprise for a Levi player if he's never seen it before, he kills himself and you drop Ophelia back and smoke the waifs. *headdesk* Of course! That's how you get around Levi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 *headdesk* Of course! That's how you get around Levi! That's what I was thinkin'.... ...hot damn I love me some green skins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 What do you think would be a more sustainable list to use the 'pult and Taxi? I've used the search and don't see many people's experience yet, I've played my gremlins in other methods through over and over and wana try these guys now. A more sustainable list for this would be something like Outcasts Crew - 40 - Scrap Som'er Teeth Jones -- 3 Pool 2 Giant Mosquitos [4ss] Bayou Gremlin [2ss]Bayou Gremlin [2ss]Bayou Gremlin [2ss]Hog Whisperer [5ss]Gremlin Taxidermist [6ss]Pigapult [4ss]Piglet [3ss]Piglet [3ss]Piglet [3ss]Piglet [3ss] You have plenty of Gremlin Fodder to turn into Stuffed Piglets. This will allow you to soften up the enemy with the Pig Boomerang, while building up a squadron of stuffed Piglets to Assasinate key models. The best part is, if this doesn't work well, then you can easily transition to a Gremlin Gunline and/or Alpha Stank. *headdesk* Of course! That's how you get around Levi! There is also the Bacon Bomb Assassination (though Levi needs to have the initiative to really assure victory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Hmm....just seems a bit...dull. I guess maybe I don't have enough experience with the boomerang to see it as all that winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omenbringer Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 I think you will find it very competitive once you've run it a few times. I find it less fiddly then the Gremlin Gunline (without Ophelia that is) and a bit more difficult to counter then the Alpha Stank. The only thing I like more then the Pig Boomerang is the Bacon Bomb Assassination run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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