Scribe Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 I am somewhat in the process of falling for Ramos and would simply love to pair him up with Rusty Alyce. Now I already read elsewhere that that might indeed not be the worst of ideas. I'd obviously like some of the Arachnids and the Steamborg and..yeah, any suggestions? I'm a bit of a sucker for steampunk anyway. Can I technically use any of the steampunk/mechanical creations with Ramos or are there any restrictions other than extra cost? If somebody could suggest a feasible list featuring Ramos and Rusty Alyce, I'd appreciate it and promise near-eternal gratitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 ramos is good with alyce... toolkit is essential, spider swarms work well with alyce, and a soulstone miner is always a great choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted July 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 oh see, didn't even think of the Toolkit! Thankies for the prompt reply and suggestions The Brass Arachnid as Ramos Totem is a must then as well, I assume. Still need to find my way around understanding even the basic rules - so many things/options to consider :hypnotize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerealkiller195 Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 well the tool kit becomes ramos' totem, but is so much better than his arachnid simply because it makes his spells VERY easy to cast (since it gives the required suit he needs for his spells). Not quite sure what else would be considered as I am also a soon to be Ramos player myself.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamwyrd Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 The toolkit is goods but I tend to still use the brass because stoking Ramos is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 A Ramos list is largely limited to the arcanist faction. He is also allowed to take two mercenary models from otehr factions (typically outcast) and there are a couple of models in the guild list that have special rules fopr selecting them (Guardian and hunter). Anything that wasn't an arcanist will cost 1 soulstone extra unless it has special rules that change this. (Like Alyce, or Johan or the desperate merc) You would be allowed up to 1 totem to be connected to Ramos The Choices are Brass Arachnid, Mobile Toolkit, Essence of Power, Student of Conflict. Each has its own advantages, and which one is best depends on how you play it. Since the stratergy you are playing is decided before the crew is picked its hard to suggest a generic list to cover all eventualities. I find it even harder to do with a slow master like RAmos as if my mission requires me to do things in the opponents half, I will need to pick models that can get there. Some popular models with RAmos include Arachnids ands the swarms - Since he can build more its always worth owning some. Corephye - fast mechanical monsters especially in duet form. Alyce - Bonus cards and the chance to re-activate any construct. Joss -Good melee construct But there are many more options. The most important purchase with ramos is an electrical creation. it is probably his best spell. I would suggest his box, alyce and the electrical creation to start you off, and work from there. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CannonFodder Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 The Brass Arachnid as Ramos Totem is a must then as well, I assume. :hypnotize The brass arachnid is better if you get an 11:tomes each turn to reactivate, and you are getting more books. And I've had games with him like that where everything I pull is a :tomes. But most games with him you would rather have the guaranteed instead of a possible reactivate. As for rusty Alice, I picked her up and still never played her. I find the cost is too high. She cost +2 SS with Ramos. If you enjoy the look its easier to squeeze her in, and she has some real benefits but I find the cost just a little high. I'd rather have an Steamborg executioner I admit I usually play 35 SS, and that is as low as you even think of adding her in, at 40+ I think shes more likely to fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted July 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Thanks for the feedback and advice, guys. Really gave me some food for thought for the weekend. I'll start out with the boxset for now and will read up on the different totems etc. Also looking forward to the alternative Ramos model. Wonder what that will be like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStranger Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I'm in a similar boat to the OP. Love the look of Ramos and the steam punky-ness, love the fluff of the union, only played twice and struggling but hoping i'll get the hang of him. I have picked up:- Ramos Box Hoffman Box Electrical Creation Joss Johan Hans extra arachnids brass arachnids mobile toolkit Now i've expanded out of the box set i feel a lot better about playing with this theme. Not much battlefield exp yet but on paper i can see things working a lot better. So far Ramos feels to me like a tough master to learn but worth the effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted July 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I'm in a similar boat to the OP. Love the look of Ramos and the steam punky-ness, love the fluff of the union, only played twice and struggling Now i've expanded out of the box set i feel a lot better about playing with this theme. Not much battlefield exp yet but on paper i can see things working a lot better. So far Ramos feels to me like a tough master to learn but worth the effort. Same as you loving all the fluff and steam punky-ness ^^ and even worse, I am yet a Malifaux virgin who hasn't even had her first game yet. I always like the models better than the rules. But there will soon come a time I will need to bury myself in the rules and some tutorials and cry out for help Definitely looking forward to this! So for now it is the Ramos Box, Rusty Alyce (still determined to use her), the Mobile Toolkit and the Electrical Creation on the list. More to be added as soon as I have a firmer grasp of what I am doing exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStranger Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Same as you loving all the fluff and steam punky-ness ^^ and even worse, I am yet a Malifaux virgin who hasn't even had her first game yet. I always like the models better than the rules. But there will soon come a time I will need to bury myself in the rules and some tutorials and cry out for help Definitely looking forward to this! So for now it is the Ramos Box, Rusty Alyce (still determined to use her), the Mobile Toolkit and the Electrical Creation on the list. More to be added as soon as I have a firmer grasp of what I am doing exactly Cool, let's stay in touch in terms of results. I'm not a world away from you and go to London a couple of times a month so we even get a game in one day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Steel Posted July 25, 2011 Report Share Posted July 25, 2011 Have played Ramos many time with and without Alyce. I enjoy playing him (even though I have not won a game with him yet). He is a fickle master though if you get good cards he can flood the field with his little mechanical minions but if the cards fail you it can be a quick defeat. I find that spiders, Alyce and Joss are a good mix, but I really think Ramos needs a gunsmith. The lack of shooting in his crew is a huge disadvantage at times. I am still determined to keep pluggin away until I get him figured out. Nothing like a Steampunk Wizard to really get the creative juices flowing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharaoh Posted August 2, 2011 Report Share Posted August 2, 2011 I've played with Ramos a lot, he was my first Malifaux master and still my favourite. You have great games where everything goes you way, and you have some games (like my last game) where you draw a total of one tome into your control hand throughout the entire game (a 7, thanks for asking), which really stymies how much he can contribute and you have to use him as a ranged master, which he's *alright* at, but not brilliant. In terms of totem, for the games where you're getting lots of tomes, and the games where you're getting an average number of tomes, i'd go for a brass arachnid, particularly if you've got a steamborg, because a stoked steamborg is good for taking down pretty much anything on the board, and even the chance that you might have it can keep your opponant seriously on his guard. When you have games where you can't see a tome in your entire deck, you probably wish you had the toolkit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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