Absolution Black Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 #withyouallthewayPD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolution Black Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Bloody Owls. Made me spill my tea... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolution Black Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 If I am still alive when we hit 9,000 pages.. I am 40 you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 So I propose when we get over 9000 pages, we all post Dragon Ball Z memes only if we get way over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PraetorDragoon Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 So I propose when we get over 9000 pages, we all post Dragon Ball Z memes only 3899 pages to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Bloody Owls. Made me spill my tea... I lied, it was after your tea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolution Black Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Hey Victoria, didn't get to give you a virtual hug before with regards your latest crappy news.. *hugs* Hopefully though, this now means only good news is on the way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 @ Abs, new one for you Dyke St/ Davies Ave, Brymbo. Scottish Power digging up road from 6th-17th July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 He's using you to plan out his getaway route from a bank robbery. Classic Shadowrun move. running in the shadows (favorite RPG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 New edition is pretty slick now. No more Deckers being god-mode. Dice caps make everything better. yup, I'm running a campaign now, 4 players, 2 adepts, 1 technomancer, and 1 street samurai/tank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Catch you later people off home to assemble Yan Lo and Kirai crews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Catch you later people off home to assemble Yan Lo and Kirai crews Bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Currently setting up a 5 player campaign. 1. Melee Street Sam 2. Skillwired Special Ops 3. Mage / Tracker 4. Matrix Celebrity 5. To be determined I expect quite a bit of lulz now that I am moving the setting from Manhattan (non-lethal) to Milwaukee (full lethal) Nice, I have a lot of custom content, and there are all of the lols because of it(mobile suits, energy weapons, tanks) also every single PC has almost died and they haven't even finished the 3rd mission, should've been a red flag when I let one of them take a 16P AP-6 weapon at the start of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustcrusher Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 This is a really common argument against any calls to create wider representation (in any form of media, not just miniature games), but it's fundamentally flawed. Just because one property is a bit better than the others doesn't mean we can't strive to make it better still, or even that it meets "minimum standard". I mean, if the cultural norm was that everyone had to eat a bowl of cold dogshit for dinner, but you could choose to have a bowl of sand instead, would you be like "OMG sand is the best, it's so much better than dogshit!" or would you be like "Hey, is there a reason we have to eat this stuff? How about some real food?" I'll never understand why so many people, when they hear someone say "I'd like to see more variety/better representation/characters I can identify with in here," feel like "Hey, it's better than the alternative, so shut up" is a better response than "Fair enough, why not?" A variety of female body types other than "catwalk model". More characters of colour. Diverse genders and sexualities represented in the fluff. Women wearing actual clothing rather than fetish outfits, and posed to look tough rather than sexy. Representation of non-Western cultures without resorting to stereotype. There are lots more ways that the game could be improved. Don't get me wrong - Wyrd has made huge strides in these areas and they absolutely should be lauded for that. However, that doesn't mean that they should stop making progress, and I think people who point out where they feel Wyrd is going wrong in that process should be encouraged. Ironsides alone meets a number of the above criteria (which is why she's my most-wanted Master at the moment) but that's kind of the point - she's alone. I assume you've heard of tokenism. Sybelle is another that comes up - just because one counter-example exists doesn't mean that the rest of the models in the game get a free pass. When you see people complain, try not to dismiss them out of hand as "whinging" and tell them how good they've got it. Instead, get some perspective and try to understand why they feel that way, then decide whether you still want to shout them down. It's days like this that I want to give up talking to anyone about anything important at all. Clearly I don't know how to communicate I'm going to try anyway- if I am a fool, might as well go for broke and remove all doubt. No sense in half-assing it. Gotta feed the Cynicism Beast. I'm not saying "stop making progress." I'm saying "good grief, give them some time." Wyrd has worked hard to make Malifaux more inclusive (without it feeling tacked-on and gratuitous, which is only slightly less insulting than not being inclusive in my mind) and made great strides even in the transition from 1.0 to M2E. We agree on that. But instead of celebrating the milestones of inclusion and encouraging Wyrd to go further in a positive way, we have people who are still complaining because it's not perfect. Have these people looked at minigaming as an industry? When's the last time you saw a female GW mini that wasn't a special character, a Lord of the Rings character, or a token? Hell, the Sisters of Battle are an entire faction of tokens because making female Space Marines would be bad for some reason. Wyrd and Privateer have made some progress, but instead of saying "yay, progress! Now let's go even further!" it's "well, this isn't 100% inclusive all around right now, so it's crap and the people behind it are crap." Did you not notice how I approved of the new character design? My girlfriend is not a skinny model type, either, ya know. I remember when Da Big Baws was around here- he wrote a post thanking Wyrd for having a disabled character because Hoffman was someone he could relate to. How many miniatures games can claim that? Pathfinder and several other RPGs can, but that's not quite the same thing- they don't have to worry about balancing things nearly as much. TL;DR it's fine to ask for more representation. It's not fine to crap all over someone's efforts to do just that, especially when they are good, just because it's not perfect right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Ironside, Tara, Taelor, the Latigos, Grandma whats her face (wheelchair and shot gun), and some of the alternatives put a few holes in that complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 the original, not what was said above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 also @crush https://www.facebook.com/groups/541183289319219/ feel free to use any of that custom content if you wish for your campaign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Old one..that new one is actually creepier though...freaks me out. Officer abso. I believe this a matter we have already discussed before. Now I would recommend you to hold your tongue on such slanderous gossip as to where my loyalties lie. They are obviously deep within the Guild's best interests. You can, as I have said before, take this matter to my commanding officer Dirial. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Loyalty 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustcrusher Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 not even hordemachine is an excuse to be an ass, no matter how much you quote that worthless page 4 Cannot like twice, so you only got one. I don't like Page 4 (or was it 5?) at all. It's basically a long form version of "lrn 2 play n00b." Games are supposed to be fun. If I wanted that level of ruthlessness I'd be taking Muay Thai as if I wanted to be a pro kickboxer. So I got my bloodwork back from my pre-op physical and just found out I have Diabetes. Hooray! Another thing to worry about! Ugh, my condolences. Is this the kind you can control with diet and exercise, or will you have to take insulin? I've been thinking I need a comprehensive psych evaluation, myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Loyalty Hahaha not sure if you have an idea how accurate that actually is. :d 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Hahaha not sure if you have an idea how accurate that actually is. :D Yes I do.......... I am the SAME! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Eldritch Enforcer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Yes I do.......... I am the SAME! I see we will make good friends Officer Eldritch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldritch Enforcer Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 anyways, later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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