Warpainter Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Hello, I am starting to generate interest for Malifaux at my LGS. And I would like to know what starter set/crew is the best at showing what the faction is like? And the ones that show the pure basics and strengths for each one? Also need to be good demo sets. Wow, that's a lot to ask. And I have done some research. And I believe that these four would be the right choices. The Guild- Lady Justice The Resurrectionists- Seamus The Arcanists- Ramos The Neverborn- Lylyth And I think having The Bayou Gremlins from the Outcasts. Would be a nice addition for flavor. Would these be a great selection of models to demo for the game? Thanks, -K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karn987 Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 (edited) Actually, for Neverborn I think you would be best showing either Pandora or the hag. Lilith is the beat-stick of the faction and has the least amount of tricks. She is actually the most straightforward. It's hard to pick just 1 caster/start set that shows the faction well because (at least in my opinion) each box set shows a different element of the faction and it's abilities. So really, I think you could be fine with any choice. Just be ready to talk about all the other starting boxes and what they do. (edit) Thanks Sketch ;D Edited November 18, 2009 by karn987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEiRD sKeTCH Posted November 18, 2009 Report Share Posted November 18, 2009 Not to nitpick. But, it's spelled Lilith. With "i's". Lylyth is a model for another company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpainter Posted November 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 @karn - Yeah I think Pandora would be a better choice than Lilith, thanks @weird sketch-yeah, I realize that, have been playing that game too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivellis Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 I agree that Lilith shows off Neverborn the least, and I think Seamus is the same, showing off the Resurrectionists the least. I'd personally go with Nicodem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Lilith and Seamus are however good groups to show off the game, as they have some of the less complex rules, that people new to the game will be able to understand with the least explanation. Which is a benefit in it's own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpainter Posted November 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 Lilith and Seamus are however good groups to show off the game, as they have some of the less complex rules, that people new to the game will be able to understand with the least explanation. Which is a benefit in it's own way. @EricJ - Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking about. Of course I will be picking up all of the starter sets eventually. I was just wanting to get a good idea on what to buy first. Thanks for the information guys, -K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 If your purpose is to demo, I wouldn't go for what showed off the faction the best, I would go for what is easiest to play and understand. Something new people won't get smacked around with. To that end, I think gremlins are a poor choice. The starter only comes with 16 soul stones worth of models, less than most other factions, and I think such a small list would benefit more from additional models than additional soul stones, especially since only Som'er teeth can use them. The gremlin player probably won't even really have a soul stone advantage, since most other masters come with a soul stone cash. Add to that that you won't even be able to make use of Som'er Teeth's "Go get your bro" ability because you lack the extra gremlin models which, in my opinion, is rather essential. I'm saying all this because I just played a starter game last night, and my gremlins died horribly. Still a good army though, I think, just not best played with a starter. I wrote up a battle report, if you're interested. When teaching, finesseless beat sticks are the way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpainter Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Well what I am aiming at is a crew that would be easy to pick the rules and also show off the faction. The Gremlins was just to show off the models more so than actually being a beatstick boxset. Thanks, Kerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted November 23, 2009 Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Well what I am aiming at is a crew that would be easy to pick the rules and also show off the faction. The Gremlins was just to show off the models more so than actually being a beatstick boxset. Thanks, Kerry They are neat models. It might be a good army for you to use. Eating gremlins with a nephilim might get noobs into the mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpainter Posted November 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2009 Yeah, that would be funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightfall Posted January 9, 2010 Report Share Posted January 9, 2010 Not to nitpick. But, it's spelled Lilith. With "i's". Lylyth is a model for another company. What's funny about this is in their latest magazine (the November issue with the GenCon coverage) *they* misspelled the name of their own Lylyth as "Lilith". It cracked me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raintar Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I think the easiest one to start out with to familiarize yourself with the game is Rasputina. It introduces some simple triggers, has some pretty cool special rules, and can still be competitive later on when you start to get good at the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireTrollJake Posted January 10, 2010 Report Share Posted January 10, 2010 I demo more often than anything with Seamus vs Teeth. I of course pilot the Gremlins. Unless they request it of course. Gives them some laughs as I Whoops all over and shoot myself and use Yall watch this to toast an undead Hooker. On top of this, lets them see that Corpse Counters are very useful (Summon Belle) But can be dealt with (Eat Anything). Also, having low WP for his Lures to go after, and using Eat Your Fill to make him fight the pig all over again shows the games strengths. Not to mention setting up a nice slit juggular to counter this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxhound7 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 I like Nicodem myself. The Resurrectionists are all about the zombies, and Nicodem can bring them out in force. His box set, plus a bag of zombie dogs, and you've got yourself a good size crew. If you're looking to just use the starter box, though, I would definitely go for Seamus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtagent2000 Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 Another note regarding the Ramos, Nicodem and Lillith starting boxes is that a portion of their strategy comes from creation of new models (or in Lilliths case, evolving) which could make those starting boxes a bit counter-intuituve to use for "luring" new players into the game, when they might not be able to use the abilities of their models. Still, you could proxy the new models I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CserZ Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 The Guild is a bunch of anti-something specialist, so I think the Ortegas has the most generic and direct approach of raw killing power. Perdita is the way! :-) Easy to understand, easy to master, hard to defeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huntroll Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 The Guild is a bunch of anti-something specialist, so I think the Ortegas has the most generic and direct approach of raw killing power. Perdita is the way! :-) Easy to understand, easy to master, hard to defeat. And boring to play, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CserZ Posted January 13, 2010 Report Share Posted January 13, 2010 And boring to play, isn't it? Sure, but easy to learn the game rules, they have some defensive and offensive triggers, some deck-controll and not over-specialized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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